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Old 04-06-2010, 09:54 AM   #2824
syr74
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Originally Posted by cab2g
Ok the standard gear ratio is 3.55 but MT tested with a 3.73 ratio setup in the track pack... Now this in itself isn't upsetting, because it's a factory option, but wouldn't this change the mileage that the standard 3.55 ratio would give you? MT reports that the mileage should be 17/26... But wouldn't the gear ratio decrease this?
MT reported observed mileage and mileage as rated by the epa which is 17/26 for the GT manual whichever gear set you have, I'm not sure what else they could have done here?

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Originally Posted by cab2g
Another thing I noticed is that they said the recommended fuel for the Camaro SS was regular unleaded... I sure hope this was a typo because if they put regular fuel in the car for their tests, that certainly would've hurt the #s!
It says the same thing for Mustang GT, which has a recommended octane rating of 91. If it's true and hurting the Camaro, then it's hurting the Mustang too.

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Originally Posted by cab2g
If they test a stock Camaro they should test a stock Mustang, NO track pak that only 10% will have.
There is no Track Pack for 2011, and the 3.73:1 gears are going to have a higher take rate than 10%. Either way, it's factory offering and complaining about is just sounds like sour grapes.

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Originally Posted by cab2g
Not sure what the 20" upgrades will cost... Anyways I would guess that the Mustang would be at least $1k when specked out to what a 1SS Base Camaro has.
Mustang does not and, according to Ford, will not offer 20 inch rims since they offer no performance advantage on cars of this size.

As for price parity, option for option the Mustang costs less which isn't really a surprise. A Mustang with the Brembo brake package does cost more than the base Camaro SS because Ford wont let you get the brake package without getting the Premium package which includes leather, etc.

So, to put is simply,Ford will sell you a 3.73:1 equipped Mustang GT for less than GM will sell you a base Camaro 1SS, but they wont let you order the Brembo brake package on that trim level. GM will sell you a base Camaro 1SS for less than a Brembo equipped Mustang GT, but that Camaro will have much less in the way of feature content since you have to opt for a GT Premium to get the brakes. If you option up the Camaro to match the Mustang Premium in terms of feature content, the Camaro will cost more even if you add the Brembo brakes to the Mustang.

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Originally Posted by cab2g
Remember they pretty much tapped the GT out to get those numbers. After market headers and a CAI probably isnt going to net you much in the hp department do to the factory designs.
Nobody associated with the 5.0L engine program, whether that be as a Ford employee or as a contractor, has suggested this. In fact, they have suggested the exact opposite, that the 5.0L is running in a very mild state of tune.

The 'it's tapped out' argument just sounds like wishful thinking.
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