[zebra]

i ain't got time to go back through this whole thread, but i'll add that i have a college degree, & by the Grace of God, am actually working in my field (after almost a year of unemployment). that said, formal education or not, even though i have some semblance of work (freelance/part time) it don't support me enough to even be able to live on my own. that's why i joined the military.

knowing what it's like to not have work at all & knowing how stressful and anxious it can make you, i would gladly take a bit of a pay cut to retain the job security that GM is trying to offer these guys... but i ain't in charge of the UAW.

i think many union workers take their jobs for granted & expect the employers to cater to them because they have this powerful mass of support, but from the employer's standpoint, it could potentially be much easier, more cost effective, and less of a hassle to take their business elsewhere - where the workers wouldn't feel so 'entitled' and would appreciate the fact that they have a steady means to provide for their families.

would i hate to see 'American' vehicles having to be completely manufactured overseas? of course i would! would i hate to see millions of American jobs being outsourced to other countries? another resounding yes!! but do i think GM should drive itself back into bankruptcy because they're trying to cater to people who ain't realizing the big picture & just looking out for #1... that'd have to be a no.


how about this...
it's almost like the difference between asking "would you like a peanut butter sandwich or Burger King for lunch?" and asking "would you like to be able to eat lunch today?"