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Originally Posted by syr74
It's a curse
With respect, and appreciation for the work you devoted to your survey. one survey conducted with little to no application or enforcement of statistical norms, which would be impossible given the conditions you indicate, is far from actual evidence of what the ratio of Mustang owners, vis a vis women to men, actually is. Put simply, you think the Mustang to be chick car and that is your prerogative, I disagree.
Actually, weight of the 'new' engine is very nearly a given considering the foundation for the engine. Everything else makes the end numbers for weight a bit murky, but barring a move to lead suspension components it wont be anything like as heavy as most of the predictions in this thread and the truth is that we really do have a pretty good idea of what final curb weight figures will actually be.
Chevy says ~3870lb in base trim IIRC. And since the only current V8-powered, Zeta-based platform mate to the Camaro sold in the North America market, the G8 GT, typically runs across the scale at least 50lb heavier than GM's claimed base curb weight figures I'm unwilling to go out on a limb and assume that GM's estimates are high.
You are using a worst case, fully loaded, auto tran Mustang GT estimate, but choose to use a Camaro SS estimate 20lb lower than what GM claims the Camaro weighs in base V8 trim. Based on Gm's own figures my money says a real world, fully-loaded, auto trans Camaro SS crosses the scales noticeably over 4000lb and that even a base, auto trans Camaro SS comes in sitting right on of 4000lb....or an easy 300lb more than the 2011 Mustang GT.
Um....yeah.
The current Mustang has won multiple road racing championships, two recently including the Grand-Am Koni championship and the GT4 European Cup. And that is why I love racing, the podium doesn't lie.
The 2011 Mustang appears certain to be
...the least expensive V8-powered car on the market by no small measure.
...the least expensive 400hp car on the market, again by no small measure.
...the lightest, rwd, 2+2 on the market in V6 or V8 guise, once again by no small measure.
sounds like a bargain to me
GM and Chrysler guys should have special appreciation for that particular comment. Those words consistently being muttered each time monthly Mustang sales figures were released are likely the only reason why the Charger and Camaro exist again at all.
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oh boy. the fanboy blood runs thick.
the funny thing about this is, i like mustangs. i like camaros. ive never owned either. and its no garrantee i ever will.
so im unbiased. unlike....
Now, im sorry to say it, but i stopped reading with an open mind after you claimed the SS would be " Noticeably over 4000lbs"
it concerns me that you think that. 3860 is the weight given for an SS 6-speed....
if i were to get one (and this isnt a unique stance. this holds true for 90% of drivers who are looking for performance) i would look to take weight off . personally id be using carbon fiber and removing things that i dont really need.
so the my car would be 3600-3700lbs... and 500+- hp... 450lbs of torque... IRS... and this is after 3-7k worth of mods in the first 3 months.
you couldnt point to a mustang in the known universe id take over that car. not a GT500KR, not a 67' elanor, nothing.
as for the cup races... ANY car can be good. it all depends on the company that gets ahold of it. If your going to argue that cup races are a good example of how mustangs do on a track your nuts.
ps. how did the mustang do on the Nurburgring??
good luck trying to find that time. as far as i know Ford didnt even both embarrassing the moostang by actually recording times.