[ssump29]

[QUOTE=5thGenCamaroChick;1329113]Sorry, my point was about the tires, not the car itself. I guess I need to go back and make my OP clearer on that point.

As I stated before, I think the Pirellis should be their own option and not thrown into the RS package. I don't want to have to buy a set of new tires (or a "beater car") so I can drive in cold weather. New tires adds another $800 - $1000 (guesstimate) to the price of a brand new car. Point being, some would count that as a mark against the Camaro in favor of the Mustang, which, from the video, obviously doesn't have that problem. Again, I don't have to change my tires because of where I live, but I don't want to worry if it's been really cold for a couple of days that I have reduced traction.

Originally Posted by ssump29

I think 80% is a high estimate considering the majority of the country doesn't have as much severe weather as the extreme north. Therefore we can drive our muscle cars year-round. Where I'm from having a "beater" isn't a necessity, it's a luxury. Yes, we have some freezes, but they usually don't last more than a couple of days and don't occur more than a handful of times per yr.

Originally Posted by Captain Vlad

Are we talking about pony cars when you quote this figure? Cuz I can say with a pretty decent degree of conviction that most Mustangs, Camaros, Challengers, etc, and other such where we live are on the road year 'round, ever day.

I could see the 80 percent thing if we were talking about a Ferrari or something. I'd bet the larger share of Camaros see action most days.

5thGenCamaroChick: It's winter, I doubt it was a ploy. Even if it was, those of us who live where a white Christmas is a rarity might not notice, as Captain Awesome's estimate of summer tires in winter in such locations seems quite correct. We haven't had a single tire issue here in OK.

No to both of you I'm talking PERFORMANCE cars not just pony or muscle cars. And 5th gen you must remember the 20inches are a option to the V6 people not so much to the SS crowd. SS comes standard with that tire, and once again most buyers of performance cars lets say mustang GTs, SS's and SRT8 WILL gargage them for the winter. Yes you will see mustangs and camaros in the winter but chances are they are the V6 models which has a lot less power and equipped better to be an all year car. And don't give me the crap that the V6 has 304 hp because its the same engine used in the CTS and thats a year round car, the V6 is very tamed and more equipped to deal with year round driving. Thats why the V6 models sell better.