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Originally Posted by stovt001
I stand partially corrected on the Vibe, though as another poster pointed out, its really a rebadged Toyota. Make of that what you will.
No Saturn dealer I've gone to has set a lower price. It is just MSRP, take it or leave it. Haggling over the trade in price is an all-together different matter, as that is just hit-or-miss depending on the dealer. You're usually better off selling your old car yourself. Have you seen the value spread on trade-in cost versus dealer retail on used vehicles? Can't blame them though, the used car side has to cover their costs somehow. Anyway, I've equipped Saturn models and their sister cars equally, and the Saturn MSRP was higher. And given that every Saturn dealer I know charges MSRP, that's a high MSRP and no haggling the price down versus a low MSRP with the possibility to reduce that further.
Feel free to disagree with me, but acting so hostile on your first post is not a good start around here. We tend to be pretty civil, and that kind of stuff just doesn't fly.
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Evidently you know the wrong Saturn dealers..... but if you ask them what no haggle means I bet they do not say MSRP... Thats What the head of Saturn kept saying when dealers started selling Skys over MSRP.
If the dealer you deal with sells for MSRP then thats what you pay, as does everyone that buys from that dealer, so JOE gets the same deal as SAM and SAM gets the same deal as John... You never have to worry at saturn if your next door neighbor got a better deal on his Aura than you did... UNTIL GM comes out with incentives which Saturn now honors.
Plus the dealerships are usually much better to work with on any problems you may have than most GM dealerships... Customer service in my book is worth a little more money.
Trade ins aropund here the price of the trade comes off the MSRP and you pay the difference in Taxes not on the total sale price. So if you sell it outright to an individual you would have to get trade in plus what extra you would be paying in taxes just to break even. and to my experience works out to about the same and not worth the hassel of running ads and answering phone calls, and having to be available to show the car..etc..
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Just to verify the No haggle policy I went to the Saturn website and talked to a rep.
Here is the conversation.
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Randi: Hello Tim.
Guest: Hi Randi, I have a question about Saturns No Haggle policy
Randi: Sure.
Randi: How can I help you today?
Guest: No haggle does not mean you have to pay MSRP but what the dealership sets ad the price on the car, Righ?
Randi: We do have a No Hassle, No Haggle Philosophy. This means Saturn Retailers are up front about all elements of a vehicle’s price. No last minute add-ons or hidden charges. No Haggle means the Retailer should stick to whatever vehicle price it sets and communicate the price at which he intends to sell the vehicle. With this philosophy our goal is to ensure that the purchasing experience is as stress free and pleasant as possible.
Guest: So it does not mean it has to be MSRP?
Randi: You pay what the sticker price is on the window of the vehicle is what the policy means Tim.
Guest: does that include the dealer AMV stickers they sometimes add?
Randi: This includes whatever sticker you see on the vehicle - as long as they don't slap any stickers or prices on there after you selected the vehicle at the facility then this does not violate the policy.
Randi: Only if you select a vehicle and then the retailer says "oh I have another price or sticker that I want to add on" - that violates the policy.
Guest: Ok thanks, so the retailer actually sets the price of the Vehicle, but before you actually see the vehicle
Randi: Correct - pricing is to their discretion.
Guest: That is what I wanted to know
Guest: thanks
Randi: Welcome 
Randi: Thank you again
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