[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

This is why the current US direction towards isolationism in the auto industry is a dangerous long term path. ...

Originally Posted by Devstrike

I do not put this blame on just the Automakers. The US Consumer (which to be fair this is not to fault them but they provide demand) politics and the Automakers. I still believe to this day that if California didn't put in the EV mandate then we probably would not be in this situation and there would be more consumer demand. I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE THIS POLITICAL. I am just saying if things were allowed to naturally happen we would live in a US where ICE and EV would co exist more freely without the resistance you see now.

At the end of the day that is where we will be. The issue I have is that things are being done now in an overt attempt to prevent the US automakers from leading in development of EV technology. By the time EVs really take off, domestic manufacturers will be far behind.

Originally Posted by bigd1276

"Isolationism". Is that a globalist term for giving U.S. customers what they want?
Asking for a friend.

Originally Posted by Junction65

Bovine excrement

Originally Posted by olrocker

Exactly.

So... when's the last time I had this sort of conversation with this sort of response?...lemme think....lemme think...

Ahh! I remember. Late '70s early '80s when Japanese imports started to take off. "Nobody's gonna buy those little $#!t-boxes" Until they did. "They can't compete with US auto". Until the plants started closing and Americans started getting laid off.

All the signs are there for a repeat, with the additional knowledge that we are already seeing the play being run in Europe and South America. There are also already plays being signaled by Chinese automakers to build cars in Mexico, the US and Canada. Sorta like VW and Honda did early in the '80s, with all the Japanese manufacturers and some of the Germans following them soon after. It's all right there in front of our eyes, should we choose to open them.