[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by Capricio

Agree, I'd say ethanol is out of scope for an EV thread, but EV policy, driven by government de facto (I qualified it, Jim!) mandates, and subsidies are well within bounds, especially as consumer demand is tapping out and significant policy changes on the horizon will drastically impact OEMs' EV sales and planning.

FWIW, I think ethanol subsidies have declined to the point where the pump price is not cost effective with reduced mileage for most people. It's down to a niche market for performance enthusiasts, and not much more. If anything, it's a good use case for what happens when you let market forces determine demand, not forcing change down consumers throats.

If you want a sunshine and rainbows thread about a coming EV "revolution" and new models, you're welcome to spin one up.

You just earned yourself a tall cold brew next time I’m in Arizona!