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Originally Posted by GreenZLE

Hey, you can try to prop up the "no mandate" air claim all you want but these government officials put their foot in your mouth for years now by literally taking credit for their mandates.

The "no mandate" lie is a lie no matter how many times you tell it.

Oh look, here's another MANDATE:

The Biden administration on Wednesday finalized one of the most significant pieces of its ambitious climate agenda: the strongest new tailpipe rules for passenger cars and trucks that will decisively push the US auto market toward electric vehicles and hybrids.
But in a concession to automakers and labor unions, the rules will be phased in more slowly than originally proposed and will give automakers more choices for how to comply.
Nearly a year ago, the Environmental Protection Agency proposed a fast ramp-up into EVs — a rule that would have ensured two-thirds of all vehicles sold were electric by the end of this decade. The EPA pumped the brakes on that plan Wednesday.

Spare us the gaslighting. We have irrefutable bonafied proof from the governments own mouth verifying EV mandates. Its all a joke anyway because we have reduced pollution from cars and diesel trucks at least 90% since the 70's. BTW, a part of improved air quality is because we exported manufacturing to India and China where they pollute even worse than we did in the 70's. We'd be better off to back our mandates and environmental regulations off about to 2010 and find a real problem to worry about.

A: Mandate = You must do this or else.

B: Regulation = Here is the final measurable result. You figure out how to achieve it.

Please show me where the Federal Government says “you must make only electric cars or else”. The world we are living in is B.

The article you linked to estimates that it would take 66% of electric vehicles to achieve the CAFE regulations and for the most part that is true, but it is also a useless statistic. It’s just straight math. Every automaker will have a different mix dependent on their product choices and level of technology added to what’s left of their ICE portfolio. Toyota can throw hybrids on everything and need a lot fewer EVs than anybody else. In fact, that is EXACTLY what they are doing. Go try to buy a new Camry that isn’t a hybrid. I’ll save you some time. You can’t. So they will not make 2/3 EVs or whatever the latest estimate is. GM is on the other end of the spectrum. Most of the volume is in large pickups and SUVs so to balance that out, GM needs to sell a lot more EVs. But that’s a portfolio choice (says the guy whose job it was to help plan the GM propulsion system portfolio).