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So, I take full credit for the removal of this thread for the past few days. I was on the verge of outright deleting it. I'm only bringing it back due to the comments of another moderator related to the value of the information.

If you value this thread, for whatever it offers you, I advise you to pay attention. This isn't a one liner post.

There are roughly 14 moderators on these three sites, with only a few of us active due to life, Camaro5, Camaro6, and Corvette 7. I would venture over 50% of the reports come from this thread alone.... 498,000 threads from 194,000 members and three websites.

We are members like most of you, that were asked to assist with the smooth running of this site. We were not asked to put up with BS, and that's what a lot of the problem is in this thread.

Seriously, over 50% of the reports? What does that tell you besides there are too many trolling posts and/or too many with thin skin. I promise you hundreds or maybe thousands of threads have been deleted for far less.

If you come in here, it is to pass along some info, or to gain some insight, it isn't to troll others, or report others for doing nothing different than you yourself are doing. Yes we get reports about and from the same people over and over and over again.

You cannot have it both ways. If you report someone, that's where your response STOPS. If you report and then fire back at them because your emotions got to you, then you are guilty and I will point that out shortly in the rules refresher.

If you report someone for some supposed infraction or slight, you best be sure your closet is in order, because I and others can and will look back to see what caused the offending comment in the first place. This isn't the NFL, where only the second offender gets busted.

I am going to post some of the relevant rules for a refresher, and I will add in a comment or two as needed.

You may not like what I'm saying or implying, it might hurt your feelings, but I didn't volunteer to put up with this, and I care too much for this site to go away as long as the owner will have me.

1) Respect & Be Helpful — By far, the most important rule here. Generations of GM enthusiasts have come together through a shared passion for the car and the community, so the golden rule applies: Treat others as you wish to be treated. This means no foul language, insults, or rude remarks towards other members. (You should have learned this as a young'un)


2) Agree to disagree — We encourage spirited discussions where members can contribute to the forum, and we understand that not everyone will be in agreement on a particular subject. However, repeated opposing posts with disrespectful intent to ‘win’ a debate will be moderated accordingly.

3) Off-topic forum — This should be self-explanatory. All non-model specific related discussions should take place in here. (We find EV discussion's all over the forums, and if/when found, they will be deleted or merged with this one as the one stop dump for all things EV, until such time as there is an EV model of the Camaro)

5) No “Thread-Crapping”/Vendor Feedback — do not ruin another member’s sale thread (or any other) for any reason. Feel free to report an objectionable post, or just don’t post in the thread! Like Mom used to say, “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all!” Just move on. This applies to members’ and vendors’ threads alike.
(Urban Dictionary: Thread crapping occurs when a person comes into a thread and posts something contrary to the spirit/intent of the thread, often derailing the discussion) in case you are unfamiliar with the spirit of the definition. If you are found to be thread crapping, infractions will be handed out.

6) Off-Limit Discussions — There are a few topics for which we have zero tolerance policy based on past experience or simply the nature of the topic. They are: Politics (automotive-related regulations discussions are allowed), Religion, Pornography, Law Enforcement-Bashing, and Street Racing. Any posts of this nature will be removed without warning or notification at a moderator’s discretion.
(LET ME BE CLEAR), (automotive-related regulations discussions are allowed). Politics is not a catch all subject for reporting. We receive as many "Politics" reports a day currently as we receive SPAM postings, and the sad part is, spam postings come from all over all three web sites, Politics are almost exclusively in here, and mostly from a couple of members. If these members will note, more often than not, their reported posts remain, as they fit within the spirit of our rules in most cases. Now, this does not mean you can blame one party or the other for some perceived slight or because you're offended by what the other political party has said or done. It must be regulation related and still can't be bashing, but rather just the implications of what you are seeing. It can't be party platform comments, or bullet points, or slamming one candidate or another, at any level.. It won't be vote for this candidate or else postings, those will earn an immediate infraction.

The subject of poiltics, like this thread, creates far too many headaches, and thus we have the right to, and will refuse to allow subjects we don't want posted here. That's the beauty of a privately owned site.

Probably the single most important rule for those of you I'm directing most of this to...

13) Moderator Discretion — All posting activity on the forums is monitored and subject to disciplinary action based on the discretion of the admins and moderators beyond the rules specifically outlined above in an effort to serve the community at large. (If I and others are spending an inordinate amount of time tending to issues in here, we can't serve the larger community and we/I will take action to ensure it stops)

Again, if you are seeing a post you think is in violation, feel free to report it, provided you didn't goad the other person into commenting in the first place. That can and may offer you both an infraction until it stops. If you react and post back, and then report an issue, you can almost rest assured if I find it, you'll both probably receive an infraction.