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Originally Posted by snizzle

They can be, in an "ideal" world configuration (which doesn't exist). As the years go by and cleaner power generation takes shape in larger percentages, the case is stronger. Buying an EV now to save the world is little more that virtue signaling. Now, buying one because you never want to go to a gas station again, awesome. Or you like the smooth quite power delivery, fine.

It doesn't require an "ideal" world configuration. It's already true today and the gap widens as the aggregate grids around the world improve. This chart, from an independent data source (Bloomberg) illustrates that. The red lines are the lifecycle emissions of ICE vehicles. The bar stacks detail the contributors to emissions from manufacturing and using EVs. The red lines are far above (more lifetime emissions) from the start. Interesting that the difference is larger in the US than the rest of the world. Simple answer for that. Volume and share of market for full size pickups and utilities outpaces the rest of the world by a lot.