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Old 03-24-2024, 07:56 AM   #30
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This will be one to keep an eye on. I'd be curious *what* was shared with the analytics firms and how GM is able to spin this in the lawsuit.

I'm not sure that a VIN is PII by itself, or that Onstar even violated its own data sharing terms - that's for the lawyers to figure out. If this is Insurance companies supposedly buying depersonalized data from an analytics firm, but being able to make the connection on their end (having VIN, driving event information, and the primary driver's demographic information) then, is GM liable for what insurance companies do with that data?

Put some Jiffy Pop in the microwave. This is going to be interesting...
I would think GM is not specifically liable for what insurance companies do with the data. That's akin to holding banks responsible for what you do with your money. Or gun companies responsible for making a gun used in a crime.

What GM MAY be responsible for is collecting and sharing data it has no right to share because it could, as apparently in this case, cause financial loss to someone's wallet due to shared information that was not agreed upon by the plaintiff to share in the first place.

It seems they signed him up for data collection/sharing when he already apparently declined it. Regardless if it was free or not. Then, unbeknownst to him, he gets penalized by insurance companies based on this data. That seems to be the crux of the situation as I read it.

Same sorta thing happened when we bought the wife's Cadillac. They hit the OnStar buttton and started the sign up process right there in the parking lot. Before, I'd do it at my convenience. I kinda didn't appreciate that.

I've been bouncing around the idea of canning OnStar anyway. I keep it on the Cadillac for the wife since it's "her" car anyway. I think this pretty much makes up my mind. If it's not there, they can't bother us about it or collect my data. I just got to figure out where that OnStar module is on the car and whether or not I can unplug it safely. They already "unplugged" 5th gen owners whether we liked it or not when going to 4G/5G, so fugg 'em. Got an iPhone that knows where I am and can call 911 for me in a bad crash. So what's OnStar got that iPhone doesn't? It'll be just one less thing probing into my personal business.
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