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Originally Posted by DevilsReject97
The current 1LE SS is actually just about identical in terms of the 5th gen Z/28 on tracks (for the most part) so it's actually a fantastic car for it.
So I can actually understand this part, but I also would say that any ZL1 that you would get in a similar price range is still going to be almost certainly out of warranty/possibly beat to hell. I mean, I've seen 2-3 year old cars going for new car prices in many areas, so I can't say I've seen what you've seen. Now, if you're just looking for a track car, you would probably be correct in saying you'd have found something probably better/cheaper.
Now, in this respect, I get it. I owned a 2018 ZL1, wanted a little more oomph, decided to sell it during COVID, and went up to a Redeye Challenger. More power, more power, more whine, and then it became gotta watch out for every puddle of water, can't take the ramps at certain speeds, and forget about traction most days....
There are always issues modding any car truthfully. Some get lucky, some don't, and some find minor issues no matter what they do. I bought my then new 2018 ZL1 and within the first 5500 miles I had to replace the Supercharger blow off valve, the ECM, and the oil pump....
The 6th gen Camaro is arguably one of the greatest performance platforms you can find in any car for the money. It's well balanced, it handles both power and drives like a champ to boot. You are right though, it's not as in your face burn out like those older cars (5th Gen Z/28, ZL1, GT 500, Hellcats).
Based on what I'm hearing you're probably better off just selling the 1LE and going after the older car. Or, perhaps consider selling it and trying to find a slightly used ZL1...
I'm now back in a 23 ZL1 so I can tell you the platform is WELL worth it
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Thanks for your perspective on the red eye and 18 zl1. I can see the same issues occurring with the gt500 as you had with the red eye. It could get old having to fight traction all the time.
I agree that any used zl1 in the price range of a new 23 2ss 1le would have had some miles and issues BUT I could have upped my budget another 10k. If GM hadn’t risen the msrp of the 2023’s, there’s a strong chance I’d just be in a zl1. I also screwed up and misunderstood what my financial advisor was telling me to do with my investments and found out after the fact I could have in fact ordered a 23 zl1
At that time 2019-2021 zl1’s were going for the price of new and I was not going to pay that. What I see now though is low 60’s-69k and that’s BEFORE negotiations. ALL sports cars are sitting right now so I’m sure I could have gotten dealers to knock off a couple grand. Those would have warranty still and I would have extended the warranties.
Right now I’m seeing mid 50’s for 13/14 gt500’s which are 10k above year 2019 prices however I’m confident I could get them to knock off 2-3k. Low 50’s for that much power is pretty good. While I could get a 17/18 zl1 for that amount I do not trust those year zl1’s and you mentioned the oil pump happened to yours so I’m sure you understand my hesitation. Plus I’m now used to the 19+ interior so I’d hate to go backwards in the “same car”. I know if I were to offer my car on trade towards a 13/14 gt500 I’d only get 44k max (I have 1700 miles only). Msrp was a hair under 55k. That’s just too big a loss to take in only 6 months.
Fall 2022 it looked like car prices were correcting but they came back with a vengeance in spring 2023. That’s why I thought we were staying in that market. This past fall they corrected harder so I don’t believe they will get much higher in spring this year. We’ll see. If it comes back strong enough I’ll list my car for sale. I’ve always been a horsepower guy and do think I’d be happier in the gt500. Looks are a wash. My SS 1le is a better car in every way except the power and exhaust note.