[KMPrenger]

I have to say...Martin has always had my respect on this forum, and the fact that he's been able to keep going and going and going on this particular topic in an attempt to raise awareness and spread reliable information all while keeping a calm head is admirable.

In the end, what it comes down to at this point in time is that EVs just don't work for everyone, and for certain segments of vehicle, they don't make much sense yet. Whether its cost (most EVs ARE way more expensive than their ICE counterparts...does GM know you can buy a similarly equipped ICE Equinox RS for over 10 grand less than the EV version?) or range anxiety, or home access to daily place to charge, or the way in which you use your vehicles (towing?), to concern over charging station availability/reliability, concern for the ways in which EVs are made,...and so on.

They just aren't there yet. The infrastructure just isn't there yet. All of the above reasons combined are why EV adoption is not taking off like the automakers and lawmakers were thinking. Sure, they are selling (Thanks to Tesla) There's a long way to go.

Where full EV does make sense right now, are for urban commuter vehicles, and the owners have a place to charge at home and they also have an ICE/hybrid vehicle, or they only take one or two long trips each year, and they are OK with that trip taking several more hours to get where they are going and they can afford a premium vehicle for that. That's it. For virtually everything else, hybrid or ICE is the more sensible choice. There is absolutely no way I would buy an EV and not have some sort of gas powered vehicle right now for long trips. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not really into adding extra anxiety, complexity, and time into my trips. I guess one could just rent an ICE and keep the EV at home.

When battery charging becomes faster and more convenient, then we'll talk about whether or not EVs make sense for other types of transportation. We are at least a decade or two away from that.

For all you folks here arguing...it's just not worth it. We all want a cleaner planet. We also want sensible choices. Let's just agree on that. Let the technology evolve, and hopefully in the meantime we will continue to have choices of what we want to drive. gm (in my humble opinion) made a mistake by not giving the consumer more choice. Just imagine if they were able to accelerate their EV plans and had dropped more ICE vehicles by now...the only thing they'd be selling is trucks and SUVs (in America anyways. Word is they may introduce some hybrids they are developing for other markets into the American market...we shall see)