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Old 09-03-2023, 09:30 AM   #18
Martinjlm
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/othe...354601b0a&ei=6
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Originally Posted by BowTie-Guy View Post
I just don't understand why they keep talking about a Camaro SUV. We already have the Blazer which has a lot of Camaro inspired design elements to it. Soon we'll have the EV Blazer SS, why would they need to make a Camaro EV SUV. It doesn't make any sense, but then again nothing GM has been doing lately makes any sense.
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To begin with that article is just a page full of ifs, woulds, coulds, might bes, and wouldn’t it be great ifs….. so there’s nothing to be excited about.

Secondly, the Camaro nameplate should die and remain completely, irrevocably, and indefinitely 100% dead if it does not come back as a 2 door sport coupe with 4 seats, a gasoline burning internal combustion V8 engine with NO hybrid or other alternative propulsion, and a true 3 pedal manual transmission as an option.

Anyone who thinks anything else about the Camaro is not a true fan nor do they understand what the truck a muscle car is.

I have no room for such negativity in my life
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Originally Posted by MT-SS1LE View Post
You have a non-enthusiast woman running the show at GM. So it's not a surprise that they would commit sacrilege by putting the Camaro name on a grocery getter, soccer mom mobile. GM never was known for making great decisions, where car enthusiasts are concerned.
That article is clickbait with half decent renderings and a whole lot of just straight-up unstudied bull$#!t thrown at the wall to see what sticks. As some of you may already know I retired from GM product planning several years ago so I do have a bit of insight into how they approach product. At this point, almost everything that was in the pipeline when I left has made it to the street (almost all…Zora) so yes there are things I haven’t seen, but I still understand how they think and make product decisions. The company I work for now does vehicle and powertrain forecasts. We do not have a Camaro SUV anywhere in the forecast. Blazer and Blazer EV have that spot covered. Corvette SUV? Yup. Actually, Corvette SUV is part of the reason Camaro has to end production in January. GM has to get the plant set up for Corvette SUV.

Somewhere in the clickbait article they talk about possibility for a Camaro Hybrid. There was. When I was still there. It was killed before I left and it ain’t coming back. The only hybrid(s) that will be left in the GM US portfolio are E-Ray and Zora. There are hybrids in China but they are funded by GM China for China. Period. And Camaro ain’t one of ‘em.

Mary is CEO (and a better performance driver than most of you would think) but GM’s President and Head of Product Development is a gearhead track rat and the reason there was a 5th Gen Z28 and a mid-engine C8. Yes, Tadge developed C8, but he couldn’t have done it without Mark Reuss green lighting it.

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Originally Posted by CTRifecta View Post
Corvette brand is also going to get an SUV, so not surprising. Not exciting at all.
Actually, the presence of the Blazer EV SS and the Corvette EV SUV are the two biggest reasons that there will NOT be a Camaro SUV, EV or otherwise. It would have to sit between Blazer EV SS and Corvette SUV. There’s not enough room there.
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