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Old 07-26-2023, 02:42 PM   #178
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Originally Posted by genxer View Post
I'm looking at one puzzle piece, for a way GM could do the 7th gen, with a V8 that will exist. Just considering a shifted venn diagram bubble there. Hypotheticals on this end are choices for them. Is CAFE not still an average that moves by including EVs or carbon credits? Everyone realizes $ are a variable.

I've looked cursorily at nhtsa cafe sites. It basically looks like massive layers of bureaucracy about not just the viscosity of ketchup... but also ingredient abbreviations, it's content of greenhouse gas, and re-modeling the viscosity; and then someone calls it catsup, and the process repeats.
You have to start from the understanding that Camaro ending is not a light-switch decision based on achieve CAFE or not or meet a units sold target or not. It’s part of a broader portfolio decision on what resources are going to be focused on delivering what products and making the most effective and efficient use of those resources.

The LGR plant is needed to make a certain high powered luxury CUV EV so Camaro has to leave the plant. The other two vehicles currently sharing the architecture and plant are about to go BEV, since Cadillac has committed to be EV only by 2030. So Camaro has to end. There’s no other plant that can accept the platform at anything resembling a cost effective level. Likewise, the engineers dedicated to the Camaro program can be (have been?) reallocated to developing other products with more volume and/or more profit potential. It’s an allocation of resources thing, not a product sufficiency thing.
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