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Old 07-12-2023, 09:44 PM   #818
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Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd View Post
Car and Driver CNBC and other media disagree with you. I can point to published articles that support my contention, so far you haven’t, AND you are relying on a single quarters sales that ended three months ago. Mine are current.

Respectfully, you know I’m right. The F150 is a more popular vehicle. There has never been an EV or a Tesla that is more popular, even with government subsidies.
Car & Driver, CNBC, and other media sources buy vehicle sales data from S&P Global. I work at S&P Global and have the same data they buy at my fingertips real-time. So basically, I could be their source.

The first picture is a part of my dashboard where I can go in and pull the data live.

The second picture is from the July 10th edition of Automotive News reporting June 23 sales compared to June 22 sales for F-series. It also compares 6-month sales for each year.

The third picture is the same thing, but for Tesla. I'm not totally certain whose numbers AN uses, but they buy forecast data from us and at least two other forecasting suppliers that I know of. They probably do their own analysis based on information from multiple data sources.

The fourth picture is from a live pull of sales by quarter for F-Series (and this includes F-150, F-250, F-250 Super Duty, and F-350. Technically, F-250 Super Duty and F-350 are commercial vehicles and should be subtracted from these numbers, but since a few people do buy them as personal vehicles, I've included them. I highlighted in green which vehicle led each quarter in sales. F-series leads every quarter in the US, but the lead is shrinking. Model Y leads every quarter except one globally and the lead is growing.

That enough source info? End of June '23 recent enough?
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