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Old 01-03-2023, 06:42 AM   #8617
Wyzz Kydd
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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 View Post
Camry and Accord sales are down 16% and 30% YTD through Q3 respectively. Sonata is down 56%. The only two midsize sedans to post gains were Malibu and Altima and both had terrible 2021 sales, likely due to production issues. I'd also wager a good chunk of these sales are going to fleet.



The market isn't there anymore. I support GM keeping Malibu in production and building a production FNR-XE, but let's not pretend the sedan market in the US is still healthy by any means.
Have you looked at the price of new vehicles lately? That coupled with chip shortages and other production issues, plus a huge drop in consumer confidence are big factors.

Total annual light vehicle sales are down across the board, not just sedans.

2018 17,224,900
2019 16,961,000 -1.5%
2020 14,471,000 -15.98%
2021 14,926,900 -13.34%

Looks like all vehicle sales are down from the 2018 peak.

F150 annual sales

2018 909,330
2019 896,526 -1.4%
2020 787,422 -13.4%
2021 726,004 -20.2%

F150 sales are down farther than the sedan figures you quoted. Not to be argumentative, but I believe sedans aren’t the problem.
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