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Originally Posted by rlarsen462
The only thing a government hates more than its "subjects" is subjects that disagree with them and are not reliant on them. Look at everything happening in the world today through that lens and you will start to understand our trajectory. It's not conspiracy when they are now bold enough to say most of it out loud to boot.
And I'll freely admit I'm an engine audiophile too. My wife will literally tell salesman (no matter the price point...I recently test drove the new McLaren Altura which is a V6 hybrid) "he won't be interested if he doesn't immediately like how it sounds".
FYI the Altura is just okay sound wise (performance was fantastic)...only so much lipstick you can put on the sound output from a V6 even with a flat plane crank.
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there's not 1 government ruling decisions being made in the world. Yet the whole world is moving towards electric. Why? Because it has massive benefits over ICE for the corporations that make them and it aligns with other priorities that both consumers and the public has.
But the collapse of enthusiast sporty cars for mid and low income people has been something that was going to happen even if you eliminate EV entirely. It's literally irrelevant to this topic.
EV didn't kill our cars. The wage gap did and changing priorities the market that buys these cars did. Our shift in what cars are succeeding and what ones are failing and how corporations are looking to maximize profits is entirely a capitalist process between the buyers and sellers. It's a pattern that was started over 20 years ago.
Be mad at big government and environmentalists all you want, it wouldn't have changed anything regarding the demise of pony/muscle cars. The middle class is poorer or smaller than they have been in many decades and their priorities have changed and have been changing for a long time now. Fun cars aren't in the budget, and corporations are under constant pressure by the rich to keep making them money by growing profits indefinitely. What other outcome would you expect from these two pressures?
edit: You gotta look at it thru a lens of the origin for our niche of vehicles. They had room in the market because most of the alternative was slow, and far from what you could consider fun to drive. Fast forward to today's cars ...and they're all way way faster and better performing than almost any option from the 90's and earlier. Even SUV's and all but the base-est models of econo-box offerings. It doesn't take much at all to have illegal levels of displays of performance on most roads/highways. The niche our car existed in has been eroded by the advancement of cars in general (almost exclusively ICE based advances in performance). There's no need for our cars with their compromises in practicality for the vast majority of buyers who used to buy them because everything else sucked that bad.
Our kind of cars had a deadline for that reason long before any kind of EV legislation.