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Old 04-15-2022, 07:15 PM   #52
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EVs will do everything an ICE does except make engine noise and have a manual shift lever and clutch (Toyota has patented an EV device that lets it drive like a manual). In most auto segments, other than what drives this website, seamless shifting and quiet operation are attributes that matter in vehicle development. EVs fix that. Only in our segment, performance cars, does the NVH issue even come into play. Reminded that the big knock on the CTS V and CT4 V Blackwing was engine sound from the V6. Not just that is doesn't have the sound, but the sound it does have isn't good.
Again, I want a car that handles well, is engaging to drive, and will age well. EVs offer nothing for me.

The problem with the V6 Caddys isn't that they make sound. Its that they make terrible sounds. The criticism wasn't from people wanting no sound. Quite the opposite. The critcs wanted sound...just a different one.

The Toyota fake manual effort proves the point of EVs appliance nature better than anything I can think of. When I first heard of it, I thought it was a joke. That any serious car company would put actual engineering effort and resources into such a ridiculous "system" suggests that these cars are at a depth of bland, boring, and lifeless beyond anyone's worst fears. It also proves that driver engagement does actually matter. And the very existence of such desperate efforts to make EVs feel like not an EV is in itself an admission that EVs are lacking in desireable characteristics that non EVs have.

Seriously, who is this fake manual system intended to fool? A fake clutch pedal and fake shifter lever, both connected to nothing and doing nothing? How bad must the car be if this is expected to be seen as an improvement? And who will buy it? Last I checked, children don't buy cars, and adults don't play pretend. The people trying to pedal these things have at best no understanding, and at worst utter contempt for their target customers.
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