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Old 04-14-2022, 10:23 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by mariojas View Post
Sure. But how much, and how often do you drive over 100mph? I hope track only. I don't think Hummer EV was build for track use...
The correlation is that the higher the trap speed, the harder the car pulls no matter the speed, except from a dig or when traction is an issue. E.g., a ZL1 will destroy a Model S P85D (for example) from a 40 roll, despite the P85D doing 0-60 slightly more quickly (because of the instant torque and AWD launch). The P85D might get the hit on a roll because of the instant torque, but the ZL1 will surpass it. To me, that's what matters - how hard a car actually pulls once its moving. I'd rather have a 11.0 @ 130 mph car than a 10.7 @ 125 mph car. The only reason the 11.0 car is "slower" in the 1/4 is because off the line traction. It's pulling harder than the 10.7 car everywhere except in the 60'.

And obviously, the Hummer EV wasn't built for track use. But everyone freaks out about it's 3.0 sec 0-60 time (similarly for other quick launching EVs), and more uneducated people will think it could beat a ZL1 at any speed because of that slightly quicker 0-60 time, despite it being slower than a 5th gen SS from a roll.

I see a lot of comments like "If you want to go fast get an EV". But that's simply not true in most cases beyond a dig launch (obviously with some exceptions like the Plaid and Taycan Turbo S I mentioned earlier).

Edit: As an example, one of Car and Driver's reviews of a Model 3 Performance listed under the plusses "Near supercar acceleration". Because in their test it did 0-60 in 3.1 seconds. However, it only trapped 115 mph in the 1/4 mile. That's not even close to supercar trap speeds.
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