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Old 11-21-2021, 02:08 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Martinjlm View Post
Not sure what you’re getting at here. Manufacturers can control the carbon impact of what they manufacture. How the customer uses and eventually dispose of it is not on the manufacturer’s balance sheet financially or in terms of disposal carbon impact.

Pretty much my point. Remanufacturers who’ve been able to make profit remanufacturing 1.8 kWh batteries are in good position when they start remanufacturing 20 - 200 kWh batteries. But some of the spent batteries will be used for second life purposes. Batteries that can no longer be used for automotive can be re-purposed for energy storage for solar farms and wind farms. Very few batteries will actually make it to the scrap pile.


Again, as far as residual value, you could just as well be speaking to me in Portuguese. I’d understand it just about as well.
I was pointing out that BEV, and net zero, is a little misleading. The manufacturer of BEV isn’t more ecologically better than manufacturing ICE, GM (and others) are using the transition to make other offsetting improvements. As you’ve said, these could also be done with ICE.

I was asking about the end of life to understand if the full cycle is being considered when we talk about the efficiency of BEVs. Does seems so…

https://www.era-environmental.com/bl...icle-batteries

Similar with BEV resale or life expectancy. Will owners be looking at a large expenditure at 110k? …or will the life of a BEV be significantly less than an iCE?

I haven’t been interested in BEV so I don’t know, but it does seem as if the entire picture isn’t being presented through those rose colored glasses.
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