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Originally Posted by UnknownJinX
Not an excuse IMO.
Like, what can you buy for $80k that's luxury that will match the performance of a GT500? You can barely get into a M3/M4 for that money, and forget about it when you start to add options. And dealers don't carry bare bone basics.
Sure, Big 3's fit and finish isn't as nice as a Lexus, but it will eat Lexus for lunch in terms of performance. RC-F is the most track-oriented Lexus on sale now and it's still a complete joke.
Toyota doesn't really know how to do performance car chassis, with GR Yaris possibly being the only exception, maybe. I think it was either BMW or Porsche - probably the former since BMW help Toyota made the Zupr4 - straight up laughed at Toyota for making garbage chassis that's unsuitable for performance cars.
BTW, older Ferrari and Lambo aren't exactly known for their reliability so there is that.
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Yes, good points here. The value proposition is still very solid with what the big three give you for your money. Toyota does struggle with performance cars. I get it!
No question you’re asking for trouble with even a few year old Italian car. It’s just that one has to have that thought run through their head at least momentarily when spending that kind of money on a car. Like, a 360 Modena isn’t a bad car and you can get a nice one for that money. The GM cars at that price wil outrun the 360 for sure but….it’s a "Ferrrrrarrrrri".
