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Old 10-03-2021, 08:07 PM   #86
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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole View Post
That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the gearheads of the past and how they insisted that performance was ending because cars were moving to newer more efficient fueling methods. I drew a clear comparison to how people now are acting the same way. Do you want to go back to those slow-ass cars from the 70s that barely ran 13s and had no options and smelled like you spilled a gallon of gas out the car and smoked everywhere and were loud AF with a 3 sp trans and 4.56 gear ratios and a 900 CFM double-pumper pouring fuel thru some stupid tunnel ram IM that sucked in hot engine bay air?? Because that was what all the gearheads back then were all swearing up and down was gonna be missed. Those cars, as good as it probably was when there was nothing else, suck by today's standards. And if those gearheads had their way then right now we'd be getting our butts kicked by every 4 cyl turbo Honda with a fart can and some teenaged punk driving it.

Performance moves on. It has to evolve and adapt. Because if it doesn't then we'd be going nowhere fast. For all these people complaining about the switch to EV, I bet you any amount of money that in 20 years they'll all be mad when they're getting left behind by every punk with an Import EV. I don't care what any of these modern day "purists" have to say. Losing sucks. Being on the losing team sucks. Going slow sucks. Being in the lane next to someone who zips by you while you look like you're standing still absolutely sucks. I don't care how loud or awesome your car sounds. Or how rowing gears makes you feel. When some punk starts showing out and acting like an a-hole and pulls up revving at you and then proceeds to leave you and embarrasses you in front of onlookers, not one of these guys here will be saying "oh but my exhaust sounds good and I have a manual trans".

Now if you guys want slow cars and want to be on the losing side then be my guest. But when things change you can bet your bottom that I'll be jumping ship.


Whether it's the Imports doing it or the Domestics it doesn't matter. It's still an issue that the vast majority of the population is set against. Some of you can't even start your car at night because it is too loud. Some of you have to resort to illegally obtaining inspection stickers because you can't legitimately go to the DMV and pass. Some of you have to fraudulently trick your ECUs because of bypassing emmissions equipment. We all know this. Do you think the government cares if it's a Honda doing it or a Chevy? No. So how long did you guys think this was gonna last? LOL!! Not for nothing, but how many of us have committed federal offenses in the past year? LOL!! Which kinda brings up another point about how certain racing topics aren't allowed but I can make a post detailing in length how to eliminate federally mandated emission equipment, obtain an inspection sticker, trick the ECU, and use off-road equipment on public roads, hahaha!!


Well those days are fading fast and soon to be gone for good. People can either sulk and cry and complain or they can get with the times and enjoy the new tech. That's just the way it is. The number of people who are against the changes are dwindling. There are way more people for it. That's the reality.

Ashame. All of that text, and you still clearly missed the whole point of this thread. It isn't about what you think the car buying public wants. It isn't what I think the car buying public wants. Its what the manufacturers perceive that the car buying public wants that will drive the type of cars and content that we will see and have in the market. Additionally, the manufacturers must stand ready to correct its product line if what they perceived as desirable is in fact not what the consumers really want in an automobile.

While the resurgent muscle car reincarnation was fun, in reality it only represents a small fraction of cars actually made and sold today. However, there is still a strong desire for v8 gasoline engines, and we will still see that format represented by truck, niche sport cars and foreign car manufacturing.
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