View Single Post
Old 10-02-2021, 10:19 AM   #53
Martinjlm
Retired fr GM + SP Global
 
Martinjlm's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Camaro Fifty SS Convertible
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Detroit
Posts: 5,945
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlaqWhole View Post
Again, the tides will change once the government starts throwing in incentives and tax breaks. They are already offering tax breaks for people to buy EV and have the charging ports added to their homes. People are fickle. At either the slightest inconvenience or the slightest incentive most people will budge. All they'll have to do is keep increasing the price of gas to where none of us can afford it. I already paid $4.50 a gallon a few months ago for premium gas in my motorcycle. It costed me $90 to fill up my Ram truck. I can afford that. Can some dude with a family of 4 and a house and expenses afford that? What about when it shoots up to $5, $6, $7 a gallon? Even IF you can afford it, at what point will people look over the costs and determine that it is not worth it? LOL!! At $6 a gallon a ZL1 will cost over $100 a tank. Half a tank will be over $50. How long will that last? And all for what? That will be one expensive ride. And again, what happens when you can't even get the gas for your vehicle?

And none of this even matters because some states have already banned the sale of gas vehicles by 2035. Other states will follow. And then they'll make it illegal to even operate a gas powered vehicle on public roads. So it doesn't matter what the public thinks or wants. The reality is that the government has already decided and there is no turning back.
Just to be clear, several states have had Executive Orders issued from the Governor's office. The way state and federal government works is the Executive Branch (Governor, President) does not make laws. They can direct the legislature to draft legislation, but the legislation still has to be voted on in the respective legislatures (Congress, state legislatures). So, bottom line, none of the 2035 stuff is enforceable law. Period.

Now, here's the fun part. Car companies are operating AHEAD of where the proposed bans are headed. GM, Ford, Stellantis, VW, BMW, Mercedes, Honda, even McLaren are all positioning to be 100% electrified by 2035. Electrified and electric do not mean the same thing. Sorta like squares and rectangles. All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. All electric vehicles are electrified, but not all electrified vehicles are electric. Hybrids and plug-in hybrids factor into the equation except for GM. So, ICE vehicles will still be around post 2035, no matter what a dozen or so states choose to do. But most if not all will have some form of electrification included. This is closer to BlaqWhole's carburator / fuel injection scenario. If you want an ICE, you can get one, but it is gonna have a hybrid system included. That's where the manufacturers are headed, and they're headed there no matter what various state governments do.
__________________
2017 CAMARO FIFTY SS CONVERTIBLE
A8 | MRC | NPP | Nav | HUD | GM Performance CAI | Tony Mamo LT1 V2 Ported TB | Kooks 1-7/8” LT Headers | FlexFuel Tune | Thinkware Q800 Pro front and rear dash cam | Charcoal Tint for Taillights and 3rd Brakelight | Orange and Carbon Fiber Bowties | 1LE Wheels in Gunmetal Gray | Carbon Fiber Interior Overlays | Novistretch bra and mirror covers | Tow hitch for bicycle rack |


Martinjlm is offline   Reply With Quote