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Originally Posted by 90503

The recent 3rd QTR sales chart shows Camaro outsold the Bolt. Bolt sales were less than the 3rd Qtr last year by 20%.

The demand for EVs is over-hyped. Sure, the manufacturers can plan to make more and more EVs but they won't sell. Anyone who wants one can get a Tesla or a Bolt now, but sales are weak. EV start ups used phony demand and phony pre-sale figures to acquire funding.

EV success relies on tax credit rebates, and the certainty of having no other choice in the coming years with ICE being arbitrarily discontinued.

I'm guessing that you already know that Bolt sales were suspended while GM worked through finding a fix for the battery fire issue, right? Between that and semi-conductor shortages, Bolt hasn't been produced at anywhere near the target production volumes. Hard to sell what you don't produce. The plant is just now re-opening to a backlog of orders. Best to compare them when they are both unencumbered.

I expect some may say "Battery Fires!!! That's why there shouldn't be electric vehicles!" During the same time that GM was recalling Bolts and telling people to not park them in their garages, Hyundai recalled over 390,000 vehicles due to engine fires. There were actually more engine fires than there were fires from Bolt EV batteries. So if Bolt proves there should not be battery electrics because of fires, maybe Hyundai proves that there shouldn't be ICE. Or maybe we should figure that both are anomalies with explainable and fixable root causes and don't extend across the board to every vehicle of that type.