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Originally Posted by snizzle
These cars will be sterile. No sound. No manual. No driving (eventually). They'll be boring commodities. I realize there will be exceptions but by and large we are headed there. That said, most of us realize there are advantages. If you're willing to admit it, disadvantages. This is not twitter. We can meet in the middle?
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Well I guess that just sucks for you. I'm sorry you're never going to be able to enjoy a car again. I extend my deepest condolences to you and I wish you all the best as you try to make it thru what will be some very horrible times. Maybe you can find some other hobby to enjoy.
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Originally Posted by detamble13
Slow maybe but from what I've read an electric car with equivalent power is always heavier. Now anyways.
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Who cares? Cars now are all hundreds of pounds heavier than they were 20 years ago anyway. The Camaro is super cramped and very small and has almost no space in it and even it weighs almost 4000 pounds. The Hellcat weighs 4400 pounds. Even the SS weighs like 3700 pounds. Now all of a sudden weight is some huge thing??
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Originally Posted by detamble13
My concern is in affordable performance. The high performance versions of the EV's currently available are expensive and while I do think costs will come down I'm not sure by how much. More importantly are the early adopters of EV tech creating a market for the next generation of muscle cars? It seems most have made the switch for environmental reasons or as a status symbol. I didn't buy a V8 Camaro because it pollutes more in the same way people don't buy a cell phone because they're an advocate for child labour in China.
If all electric is the future I hope there is still room for a two door, sporty car that is affordable. But man I'll miss the manual transmission.
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Affordable performance? Sorry but those words do not mix. The ZL1 is the cheapest of the higher level Muscle Cars and it is a $70K+ MSRP depending on options. Even without a bunch of add ons it is still over $60K. The Redeye is over $90K with decent options. The Super Stock is well over $90K. The GT500 is over $90K after markups and taxes/tags. The C8 after options is over $70K easily. The C8 Z06 will surely be $90K-ish. GTRs, Trackhawks, Raptors, TRXs, all are not even close to "affordable" by the majority of people in this hobby. Hell, I can afford those cars and I'm darn sure ain't paying those prices because I can't justify in my right mind spending that kind of money on a car.
Even if you buy a GT or SS and throw a blower on it and add some suspension and other stuff you're still talking about spending upwards of $50K after all is said and done...and not having a warranty. These are all very expensive cars as it is. EVs will be even faster. So why should they be cheap? However I'm pretty sure there will be different trims offering different levels of performance comparable to what we have to day and for around the same price. It won't be all or nothin.