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Originally Posted by trm2
EVs are much more convenient than an ICE. Get home, plug in and have a “full tank” in the morning. My Model S is a beautiful car (I know that is subjective), but is also mediocre in a lot of ways and Tesla sucks as a company, so there is that. Doing a road trip is really quite easy and convenient, which I was worried about at first. Drive a couple of hours, stop to grab a bite to eat and hit the restroom, repeat.
A touch over three years and zero degradation - not that it can’t happen in the future. My wive’s Volt is almost 5 years and no battery degradation.
But when I want to drive for driving’s sake, I use my Vette.
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How many miles are you driving? If you are driving fewer miles it's possible you don't have much more than 1-2% degradation.
As I said to the other guy, I believe in global warming and climate change. I am for pure EV down the road. I just believe the accelerated pure EV push is unrealistic and harmful to the environment and consumers. We should have an electrification push, hybridizing more vehicles and offering pure EV trims as well. For the next 15-20 years. Before we fully transition to pure EV. However, because of regulations, automakers are phasing out ICE completely by 2025. It will happen earlier than people think it is a wrong approach which will cost them financially and cost us ordinary people.
Toyota CEO gives good input on this:
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The automobile world is going electric quickly—with technological advances that make electric vehicles cheaper by the day and regulators around the world pushing for a blanket ban of gasoline vehicles. But the boss of the world’s largest automaker isn’t buying the hype. “The current business model of the car industry is going to collapse,” Toyota president Akio Toyoda warned, if the industry shifts to EV too hastily.
At a news conference on Thursday, Toyoda, the grandson of the automaker’s founder, Kiichiro Toyoda, said Japan would run out of electricity in the summer if all cars were running on electric power. The infrastructure needed to support a 100 percent EV fleet would cost Japan between 14 trillion and 37 trillion yen ($135 billion to $358 billion), he estimated. And most of the country’s electricity is generated by burning coal and natural gas, anyway, so it’s not necessarily helping the environment.
“The more EVs we build, the worse carbon dioxide gets…When politicians are out there saying, ‘Let’s get rid of all cars using gasoline,’ do they understand this?” Toyoda said at the event as chairman of the Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association.
His comments came just weeks after the Japanese government teased a plan to ban the sale of new gas cars starting in 2035, mirroring similar moves by the British government and the state of California recently.
Toyota is a leader in hybrid gas-electric cars, which will still be allowed under the government’s plan. But the company doesn’t have a fully electric vehicle for the mass market just yet. During Toyota’s third-quarter earnings call last month, Toyoda generously praised Tesla’s leadership in the battery EV sector, saying there’ a lot his company can learn from Elon Musk. Yet, he’s confident that Toyota will win out in the long term with its robust and diverse product mix.
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https://observer.com/2020/12/toyota-...an-transition/