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Old 10-20-2009, 12:05 PM   #144
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Anything in terms of power-delivery/handling that sticks out above all to you on the car?

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Originally Posted by Cmicasa the Great XvX View Post

As for your misunderstanding of the LS3 not showing up in the CTS to compete with the 550i... I am right there with U.
I believe their reasoning was that not many people were buying the V8 versions of the past, so they put the DI 3.6L in there, instead. It turned out to be a good call, because sales went up overall (no doubt due to many reasons...but still). I remember reading that somewhere...wish I could find the link.

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OOOOOOH!!! My reason for posting the CTS-V thread in the first place was to give a peak into what the LSA may offer in the Camaro Z28.

I believe the Camaro will only benefit further with the LSA engine in it. ALtho I am a firm believer that GM would be a fool to give the Z28 the 556HP version, without either boosting the CTS-V up to 600. Cadillac guys will be pissed. Second off I think that if Chevy does give it an LSA.. the Z06 should get the same set-up. The Vette would be OK with this as it is over 700lbs lighter. I mean seriously... if the GT500 is the Z28's intended target, the GT500, weighs the same thing as the Camaro SS. But it still doesn't have IRS, despite it having 115HP more and it still doesn't perform that much better than the SS... and it still costs damn near $50K compared to the SS's $34K.

I'm sorry but this is one for the books... I seriously am awestruck that a 426HP $34K Camaro, weighing only 15 lbs less... ran with a $50K 540HP Mustang (that's 114HP more)

Camaro Mustang
0-30 mph 1.9 sec 2.0 sec
0-40 2.6 2.7
0-50 3.5 3.7
0-60 4.5 4.6
0-70 5.7 5.5
0-80 7.2 6.8
0-90 8.7 8.2
0-100 10.5 9.7
Quarter mile 12.9 sec @ 110.7 mph 12.8 sec @ 115.3 mph MT COMPARISON

YES the Mustang beat the Camaro... by 1/10th of a sec and 4 MPH. That is pathetic, and basically says that if the Camaro even remotely got the LSA (560HP without the "Quiet Tuned" exhaust from Cadillac restricting it) it would MURDER the GT500. Fact is that a Camaro with just the Base Corvette's 436HP LS3 would at least equal the GT500, altho I'm betting it would whip it.
There are other comparisons showing the GT500 with a substantial lead on the Camaro SS (by as much as 5/10ths). It really boils down to the fact that the Ford is nearly-impossible to launch off the line, and around a road course - it can be skittish. With practice, I've no doubt you could seriously hurt a Camaro SS with it. BUT -- you are right, when consisitency is key; that particular run is documented.

I also suspect that the LSA won't stay identical to what we know it as now. I think "if" it gets used in the Camaro in the future, it will feature either more, or less hp...but it's gonna be different. I'm not sure why the Caddy folks would complain...the Corvette guys seem allright with the Camaro sharing its LS3.
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