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Originally Posted by syr74
I have to agree on the Ring, waaaaaay over-rated. First, there is no real governing body to determine how 'honest' the participants actually are so I can more or less work whatever VooDoo I choose if I want to 'win' badly enough. Two, despite the perception that the Ring is somehow the best single indicator of how a car performs in general the truth is that the Ring, like all race tracks, favors certain types of cars.
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Exactly... I have never been to the Ring.. and probably never will take one of my cars over to Germany to run on the road course. Most idiots fell in love with the "Ring" after the whole "Nissan GT-R" bullcrap came on line back in 2007.
Another car with great performance that is about as nasty to look at as Rosie O' Donnel in a THONG... on her PERIOD, with a PAD THAT AIN'T DOING THE JOB
The list below shows that the RING is certainly not a course that has only to do with SPEED.. but mostly handling. That is not to say thatthe CTS-V is not as good a handler as the Porsche Pana.... but its AWD certainly didn't hurt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times
7:56 minutes for the Porsche... 7:59 for the Cadillac (a Z51 Vette gets the same as the CTS-V btw
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As for the CTS-V....easily the best car GM has produced since the 63-67 Stingray and without doubt one of the five best cars GM has ever built. As for any comparisons to the Panamera......the difference here is that the Panamera is arguably pretty silly while the Caddy isn't. That said, I still do not understand the lack of a naturally aspirated, LS3 V8 in this car.....huge oversight IMHO. Today 10:30 AM
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I won't call the Porsche silly.. just ugly as a mofo. From a PURIST'S point of view... a 4-Door Porsche is about as bad as Chevy taking the G8 GXP... slapping 4 circular lights on it and calling it the Corvette Z04. But HEY!!! Porsche did take a
Touareg and create the Cayenne
As for your misunderstanding of the LS3 not showing up in the CTS to compete with the 550i... I am right there with U. I blame it on the STS. How GM came to terms with themselves having a Pontiac Sedan with 360HP and 415HP while having it's Flagship Division have to make do with a 304HP V6 and 320HP V8 is beyond me. For those who would argue that the Small-Block is not advanced enough to go into a Cadillac.. I point U directly to the CTS-V.. and the Escalade.. Then take a drive in just a G8 GT, and U will realize that the LS engine is as smooth as anything from Lexus, BMW, or Benz when not coupled with an aggressive toned exhaust
