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Old 06-05-2019, 08:43 AM   #89
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Originally Posted by DGthe3 View Post
Yes, the 1st gen CTS-Vs were LS6 then LS2 powered at 400 hp either way. The STS-V and the XLR-V had the supercharged Northstars.

I didn't know this until I checked wikipedia just now but it turns out that the STS-V was the most powerful of the early -V cars at 469 hp. If I were to have guessed, I'd have figured the 6 figure sports car that was the XLR-V would have been the most powerful Cadillac at the time but it used a 443 hp version of the supercharged Northstar.


And yes, subjectively V8s are more satisfying. But my point was that in terms of outright power a V6 shouldn't be dismissed automatically. If its a pretty mundane turbo6 that they're pretending is 'high output' ... well, thats a different story all together. But a 500ish hp TTV6 in the CT4-V would probably have made most people quite happy. And that would have been doable with an updated version of the LF4 from the ATS-V. Instead, they didn't even put a V6 into the CT4-V. They used the 4 cylinder from the Silverado
From what I remember, I recalled that Cadillac was at a disadvantage at around 2004, because both Mercedes and BMW had 500 hp rwd sedans (I may be a year earlier...it could've been 2005). The CTS was a great sedan, but it was still early in its production and it was having quality problems, specifically the rear end. Cadillac was at least 100 hp down from its competitors, so this may have spurned them to ramp up the STS to at least come closer to the competition. I also remembered a friend's relative that bought a brand new Mercedes E?63...or the 500 hp sedan during this time, and how impressed I was with it. '09 was Cadillac's redemption year, and they've been enjoying the fruits of its victory...at least up to now.
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