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Originally Posted by DGthe3

If its body on frame & rear wheel drive ... its not a crossover. Its an SUV

As for the crossover count, in North America there are currently:

• 3 at Chevy (Trax, Equinox, Traverse)
• 2 at GMC (Terrain, Acadia)
• 3 at Buick (Encore, Envision, Enclave)
• 1 at Cadillac

So 9 across 4 brands.



Thing is though, they also offer more SUV's than anybody else. Tahoe, Suburban, Yukon (and XL), and Escalade. I think GM counts that as 5 (Yukon & Yukon XL are 'different') but many would argue its only 4. Either way, I'm pretty sure thats still more than any other automaker. Granted, the only choices are big & bigger but if anyone needs an SUV to do SUV things, you can absolutely get one from GM if you want.

Car companies do not subscribe to FWD = CUV / RWD = SUV. Same for BFI / BOF, although I think most if not all would concede that all BOFs are SUV, though not all BFIs are CUV. If it was just a BFI / BOF discussion, Grand Cherokee would not be an SUV and Jeep officianados would be put on suicide watch.

When I was at GM we had some VERY spirited discussions about what the dividing line was between CUV and SUV. Friendships were broken, puppies and kittens were orphaned....

Chevrolet would consider Traverse and Blazer to be SUV, Trax and Equinox to be CUV. Acadia, Enclave, XT5 would all be considered SUV. The biggest battles were over whether or not Equinox / Terrain are SUV or CUV. At the end of the day, I think the answer is that for that level vehicle, it doesn't really matter. The ones that were universally conceded to be SUVs are so deemed because they are specific platforms (Lambda, and Chi), designed from the ground up to be optimized utility vehicles, even though they are BFI. CUVs are loosely considered to have been derived from car platforms. Equinox and Terrain are developed from the Delta platform.

I'm not certain we ever really gained consensus on the defining characteristics, unless something has changed in the year since I've left.

As for how to count the BOF SUVs, Tahoe and Yukon are basically the same at a "body-in-white" level. Suburban and Yukon XL (which also used to be branded Suburban) are the same at a body-in-white level. Escalade (swb) is common to Tahoe / Yukon and Escalade XL is common to Suburban / Yukon XL, so realistically, there are two, with branding differences driving the number up to six.