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SynergyGreenSS 03-02-2016 12:03 PM

3.91 gears questions
 
I'm planning on having 3.91 gears installed on my car once I know we won't have any more rain (hopefully soon). I saw the gears on phastek for $309.95, and the install kit for another $200. Do I need the install kit? What does it do? How much should I expect to pay for labor? Will it improve my 0-60, and by how much? Thanks for your input everyone

Dmpsix 03-02-2016 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by biggerisbetter (Post 6289964)
$1000 bucks ish. if i was going to do it again i would order the gears from jannetty racing i think the 1le gears are $350 ( http://www.jreperformanceparts.com/2010-2013-camaro-ls3-gm-1le-3-91-gears.html ) and ted will update the tune for free (a $315 value). i found a custom trans shop local that said if i remove the diff and bring it all to him he would install for 400 bucks. so for 750 you could have your gears installed and tuned. if i wanted the guy to do all the work he said it would be 700 for the install. just shop around i got qouted from 400 - 2500 haha the high end was the dealer

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asmith 03-03-2016 11:32 AM

Do your self a favor and avoid after market gears, GM gears are nominal and chances of winding up with a howler are greatly reduced.....:thumb:

https://chevroletperformanceparts.co...r-kit-19301504

TXM62SS 03-03-2016 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by asmith (Post 8943069)
Do your self a favor and avoid after market gears, GM gears are nominal and chances of winding up with a howler are greatly reduced.....:thumb:

https://chevroletperformanceparts.co...r-kit-19301504

Exactly

SynergyGreenSS 03-03-2016 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asmith (Post 8943069)
Do your self a favor and avoid after market gears, GM gears are nominal and chances of winding up with a howler are greatly reduced.....:thumb:

https://chevroletperformanceparts.co...r-kit-19301504

I was planning on getting oem gears and having them installed at the dealership

blakjak55 03-03-2016 01:53 PM

Can't speak for 0-60 as I haven't measured. Seat of the pants is definite.

Not sure if the Phastek kit comes with the speedometer recal code or not either. The GM kit comes with one or if you get it through Janetty apparently he can do it as well.

Cheapest route is to buy the gears and install yourself. If you can't, then pull the pumpkin and take it tome someone to install and put the pumpkin back in yourself. If you can't do that either, the dealer is going to cost you $1500 or so for everything.

SynergyGreenSS 03-03-2016 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blakjak55 (Post 8943409)
Can't speak for 0-60 as I haven't measured. Seat of the pants is definite.

Not sure if the Phastek kit comes with the speedometer recal code or not either. The GM kit comes with one or if you get it through Janetty apparently he can do it as well.

Cheapest route is to buy the gears and install yourself. If you can't, then pull the pumpkin and take it tome someone to install and put the pumpkin back in yourself. If you can't do that either, the dealer is going to cost you $1500 or so for everything.

Seems pretty unreasonable.. My dad is a divorce attorney and he's handling a case for the owner of a performance shop in my town so maybe he'll give me a deal..

blakjak55 03-03-2016 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SynergyGreenSS (Post 8943490)
Seems pretty unreasonable.. My dad is a divorce attorney and he's handling a case for the owner of a performance shop in my town so maybe he'll give me a deal..

Hahahaha yeah maybe. It's the labor that kills.

It's not hard to pull the pumpkin and take it someone. Just make sure they set the preload to spec and the backlash is good.

SynergyGreenSS 03-03-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blakjak55 (Post 8943518)
Hahahaha yeah maybe. It's the labor that kills.

It's not hard to pull the pumpkin and take it someone. Just make sure they set the preload to spec and the backlash is good.

Sounds good. Thanks for the advice

olblue75 03-03-2016 08:04 PM

Got my set from Muareen from Rodgers Chevrolet best price anywhere!!!

christianchevell 03-03-2016 08:28 PM

the kit is for the new bolts sometimes needed for the differential and the shims that are necessary to install to adjust it just right also new bearings are good, as is a LPW diff cover and poly bushings for the diff at least with the rear.

SynergyGreenSS 03-03-2016 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by christianchevell (Post 8944276)
the kit is for the new bolts sometimes needed for the differential and the shims that are necessary to install to adjust it just right also new bearings are good, as is a LPW diff cover and poly bushings for the diff at least with the rear.

Thanks for the info!

JCunningham 03-03-2016 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blakjak55 (Post 8943409)
Can't speak for 0-60 as I haven't measured. Seat of the pants is definite.

Not sure if the Phastek kit comes with the speedometer recal code or not either. The GM kit comes with one or if you get it through Janetty apparently he can do it as well.

Cheapest route is to buy the gears and install yourself. If you can't, then pull the pumpkin and take it tome someone to install and put the pumpkin back in yourself. If you can't do that either, the dealer is going to cost you $1500 or so for everything.

I had a gear shop do it. I just gave them the pumpkin. had less than $700 in it all new GM parts

fastbroshi 08-11-2016 08:45 AM

I just had a shop give me a quote and they said with my mileage, 59k, I might want to do the bearings as well. What bearings is he talking about? All I see in this kit are shims/spacers and a crush sleeve.


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