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CamaroSSStlfan 07-15-2021 07:25 PM

Class action suit against Ford for Gt350 moves forward.
 
LOL. 2016 Shelby GT350 owners got ripped off. Hopefully Ford is forced to pay up here.


Should have bought a SS 1LE or a ZL1 :smiling1:


https://jalopnik.com/ford-shelby-gt3...-go-1847300508

STReddy1999 07-15-2021 08:07 PM

This honestly makes no sense to me. Nobody forced these people to buy these cars, they really don't have a case, in my opinion. They got what they paid for. Whether or not a GT350 is worth its price is debatable, for sure, but you shouldn't sue a manufacturer because you don't like the product you bought. Simple counter-argument is that you shouldn't have bought the product, Ford will say customers should have done their research.

If the product was defective, they might have a case. But a lack of auxiliary/additional coolers for track use does not mean the car is defective. It was designed that way, and Ford never said they would include them, so they never falsely advertised the car, they just hyped it up so braindead Ford loyalists would buy the car.

Chevy doesn't advertise the Camaro at all, that's how they protect themselves from false advertisement lawsuits.

Envious_Ivy1LE 07-15-2021 08:10 PM

that's hilarious lol they just can't get it right. Didn't they get sued on the Focus RS? The first model year cars kept having catastrophic failure after 6 or 7 months.

Well I can't find any class action just a bunch a few reddit references to a 112 page on a focus forum about head gasket failure. They did get sued and had to buy back some Focus/Fiesta lower trim models with the dual clutch because it was awful

CamaroSSStlfan 07-15-2021 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Envious_Ivy1LE (Post 11040558)
that's hilarious lol they just can't get it right. Didn't they get sued on the Focus RS? The first model year cars kept having catastrophic failure after 6 or 7 months.

Well I can't find any class action just a bunch a few reddit references to a 112 page on a focus forum about head gasket failure. They did get sued and had to buy back some Focus/Fiesta lower trim models with the dual clutch because it was awful

The early days of the coyote cylinder 8 was destructing, especially if one got a tune. Ford quality at work.

Silveradoss573 07-15-2021 09:02 PM

They should've installed the coolers on all the GT350's. But at the same time, it's the owners faults as well knowing that when they bought a base GT350 or one with the technology package that no coolers were added from the factory nor available as a option. The base and the technology optioned ones was geared more for street and not so much track use.

Brudda*Termite 07-15-2021 10:15 PM

I'm surprised that it made it to class action. As a deprogrammed Mustang driver myself, I've seen me and others of my former ilk rationalize just about everything for why their cars don't cut it...

Chevelle vs Camaro 07-15-2021 10:40 PM

Lol..... i see so much hate here for other pony cars......spent more time on Mustang6 and nowhere near the hate..... you guys (not all of you but you h8rs know who you are) sound jaded.

Try boosting people up not tearing them down.

And also this is a Camaro forum not a Mustang/challenger hate forums.

That is the dumbest lawsuit i’ve seen..... they knew they were buying the one without coolers.

Here is a class action relevant to us Camaro drivers

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/over-75...ction-lawsuit/


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Envious_Ivy1LE 07-15-2021 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevelle vs Camaro (Post 11040630)
Lol..... i see so much hate here for other pony cars......spent more time on Mustang6 and nowhere near the hate..... you guys (not all of you but you h8rs know who you are) sound jaded.

Try boosting people up not tearing them down.

And also this is a Camaro forum not a Mustang/challenger hate forums.

That is the dumbest lawsuit i’ve seen..... they knew they were buying the one without coolers.

Here is a class action relevant to us Camaro drivers

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/over-75...ction-lawsuit/


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keep us updated lol I'd take a new starter if they made them replace it haha

Norm Peterson 07-16-2021 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Silveradoss573 (Post 11040581)
They should've installed the coolers on all the GT350's. But at the same time, it's the owners faults as well knowing that when they bought a base GT350 or one with the technology package that no coolers were added from the factory nor available as a option. The base and the technology optioned ones was geared more for street and not so much track use.

Agreed. There isn't much question that somebody like me or any of the halfway serious track rats here or over on M6G would have come to the right decision all on our own. People more like my son-in-law who are more impressed by technology and less by track performance . . . probably not.

I'd have to go back a few years and look at the differential cooling issues at least, but I'm pretty sure it was already an identified problem just in the GT-level cars. Numerous posts/threads on how to solve diff overheating. So buyers could have been at least aware of the possibility . . . if they first went to the forums anyway.

On the other hand Ford had to have known, and been a bit more cautious in their advertising - even if all they did would have been to include an asterisked note indicating "Track Pack equipped cars only".

Apparently the court believes that although a savvy track day enthusiast would have recognized this particular shortcoming, a newbie to that activity might well not have been. People who bought their GT350 because of its name and history, only deciding to try tracking afterward.

Given that buyers tend to buy Tech Packages in anything (IIRC, the Tech Package was actually legally required for GT350 sale in a couple of states), there's blame to be spread around here.


Norm

FenwickHockey65 07-16-2021 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevelle vs Camaro (Post 11040630)
Lol..... i see so much hate here for other pony cars......spent more time on Mustang6 and nowhere near the hate..... you guys (not all of you but you h8rs know who you are) sound jaded.

Try boosting people up not tearing them down.

And also this is a Camaro forum not a Mustang/challenger hate forums.


:smiling1: You clearly weren't there in the years leading up to the 6th gen Camaro.

FarmerFran 07-16-2021 08:21 AM

CALS come in all shapes and sizes and while I do not agree with some of them they are a necessary evil to try and keep companies in check.

I was unfortunately a part of the John Deere CALS years ago, I do not remember the specifics but it was something like they claimed 20HP and it was really only 18.

Was really stupid because no one with a 1 series lawn mower is going to miss "2HP" but it was false advertising and we were owed. I get that this is different but still falls in the category of keep them honest.

Modernmusclecar 07-16-2021 09:47 AM

My 2 buddies hit the track one in a 2018 1le and the other with a 2017 Gt350. Both were shocked how the Camaros could run all day and not heat up. Unlike the Mustang 350s and 500s that were there. My buddies Gt 350 did in fact go into limp mode a few times during their day due to heat. On the way home it did it again...because the motor was shot. Ford covered the entire repair tho

Chevelle vs Camaro 07-17-2021 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Modernmusclecar (Post 11040832)
My 2 buddies hit the track one in a 2018 1le and the other with a 2017 Gt350. Both were shocked how the Camaros could run all day and not heat up. Unlike the Mustang 350s and 500s that were there. My buddies Gt 350 did in fact go into limp mode a few times during their day due to heat. On the way home it did it again...because the motor was shot. Ford covered the entire repair tho


I get it but guys who track their SS’s or nicer might not start up at the track after running hard and heating up stRter. And that’s ALL Camaro’s not just one model...


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Norm Peterson 07-17-2021 07:09 AM

If you meant to type "starter", that's really a separate issue from triggering limp mode while driving.


Norm


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