[Gen6cyl]

They can keep that BS in Cali.

[ZR1-OK]

Another reason I planned ahead and set for life.

[Gen6cyl]

Originally Posted by ZR1-OK

Another reason I planned ahead and set for life.

I imagine the government can retrofit your car and make you pay for it.

[GreenZLE]

The feds will be onboard with this too. Mark my words. Next will be government control of your t-stat and how many times your toilet flushes.

[bigd1276]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Just my opinion but this scares me far more than any EV mandate.

The one idiot says “oh I don’t think this is an overreach at all”.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...042d52db&ei=35

We have reached common ground.

[Kamero6]

There are more deaths for DUI's than speeding. They should ban alcohol first.
It's never been tried and it will most probably improve society.

[Grtpkn]

So a state that hands out clean needles for people to do drugs out in the open is worried about 3000 traffic deaths. How many died with the needle handouts? I agree all the mandates are about control.

[SS_Don]

Originally Posted by Kamero6

There are more deaths for DUI's than speeding. They should ban alcohol first.
It's never been tried and it will most probably improve society.

There was something called prohibition. Big failure.


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[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by SS_Don

There was something called prohibition. Big failure.

I think he was being sarcastic and made the same point

[MyNameIs]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Just my opinion but this scares me far more than any EV mandate.

The one idiot says “oh I don’t think this is an overreach at all”.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...042d52db&ei=35

This is what happens when you elect fools to run your town, city, state or country.

[Dynamical]

We still have elections? I thought they were installed?

[Kamero6]

In the 1993 movie Demolition Man, the city of San Angeles is a pacifist utopia that is free of guns, crime, and bodily contact. The city is a merger of Los Angeles, San Diego, and Santa Barbara, and is ruled by Dr. Raymond Cocteau.

Spartan finds life in San Angeles to be sterile and oppressive, since all types of behavior deemed immoral or unhealthy, such as sports, alcohol, swearing, eating meat, and having s..x have been declared illegal.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Just my opinion but this scares me far more than any EV mandate.

The one idiot says “oh I don’t think this is an overreach at all”.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...042d52db&ei=35

Saw that. I pray that we are not collectively that stupid.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Just my opinion but this scares me far more than any EV mandate.

The one idiot says “oh I don’t think this is an overreach at all”.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...042d52db&ei=35

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Saw that. I pray that we are not collectively that stupid.

...and do you guys not see the parallels with the trend those "stupid", "anti-EV" folks bring up here time and again? You appear to be quite okay (evangelistic even) with the technological enablers of such draconian, "safety focused" and "greater good" type legislation, but when it inevitably gives rise to these asinine, yet now astoundingly easily conceived and implementable measures, you object as if this was some out-of-the-blue overreach... you think this will end with mandatory speed limiters? Come on.

We "stupid" "anti-EV" people don't object to the existence of EVs, we (okay, at least I) even welcome them for fitting purposes, we just don't want to live under any regime that can and happily will govern your mobility, your diet, your entire way of life with that much ease. In fact I already did, I'm coming from this very road in the belly of socialism and don't want to go back, ever. And please don't say that ship has sailed, it's never too late as long as one is alive and kicking.


Mods, feel free to ban me if this is deemed too political, but I swear it isn't meant to divide or anything of the sort.