2014 Stingray

[sangerbanger58]

I don't like the new design either. The front looks like Viper and Ferrari inspired

[el ess A]

I'm not 100% sold on the new Stingray either.

With that said, I do find many of its attributes inviting and you must think about this one just a bit...

...many times, what you see in the NEW Corvette engineering/tech, some of it eventually makes its way downward (Think HUD, mag ride, superchargers, engine platforms, upped HP, etc.) to "lesser" models.

I think rather than bitch about the Stingray, start looking at the tech that's put into it and consider what sort of things that may be adopted later on in the next Camaro. Some things may be welcome, some may not, but look at it more as a preview as to what's to come for the 6th gen Camaro.

[05stram]

I am sure a lot of people since the inception have not liked the changes to the body lines, but it has to change. If not you purest would surely be driving one of these around.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by Number 3

First, as a long timer you know any new Chevy gets attention in Camaro5. Apparently you are only focussed on the Corvette as I go and play in the new SS threads all the time. Same discussion there, ugly....underpowered.....would never buy one. LOL

To say you don't like the car is fine. The very best cars can't and don't appeal to everyone.

For me the styling is a reach. I worked on the C6 and XLR. The XLR was the reach, the C6 was a wonderful evolution (and I never minded the interior as much as many)

But if you want to judge by the numbers.....................oh wait we don't have those yet. I think what we heard was "at least" or "more than" 450 HP.

If I ever buy one it will be for the package not a HP number or torque number.

So please list all the cars with 450 HP? You seem to think they are all over the place.

Ford only has one and it will cost you much more than a Stingray.

Fiat? They have the Viper and that will cost you 2 Stingrays to put in your garage. An SRT8 Dodge or Chrysler will cost you almost as much as Stingray and neither of those would you really want to take to the track. And neither of them are "common".

Honda? Zero
Nissan? GTR
Mazda? Zero
Toyota? LFA
Subaru? Zero
Hyndai/Kia Zero (Sorry the R spec is only 429 and the Equus will set you back more than a Stingray)

So now you are common if you get to Porsce. So does the Cayman have 450? Nope. Base 911? Nope. Go to the Porsche web page and only the Turbo models are over 450. And those will again run you the cost of 2 Stingrays.

So list all the mid 50 to $60,000 cars than that will run a "less than" 4.0 second 0 - 60 and get "more than" 26 mpg and have "at least" 450 HP.

Oh and add drive it to Florida on vacation with luggage and 2 sets of golf clubs because the Stingray will do that all day long.

Go!!!

It's ok not to like it. You are just trying to use 450 to bash it as if that is a regularly achieved number. It isn't.

Thanks for the novel.

Camaro: 30k, 426hp.
NEW Corvette: add another 30-35k to your bottom line, and only add only 24hp?

May I point out that even the lowly Mustang GT makes 420hp. It's an unimpressive number, any way you spin it.

Not as unimpressive as the styling, but still.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by 05stram

I am sure a lot of people since the inception have not liked the changes to the body lines, but it has to change. If not you purest would surely be driving one of these around.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by Revo1

Thanks for the novel.

Camaro: 30k, 426hp.
NEW Corvette: add another 30-35k to your bottom line, and only add only 24hp?

May I point out that even the lowly Mustang GT makes 420hp. It's an unimpressive number, any way you spin it.

Not as unimpressive as the styling, but still.

Oh boy, don't call a mustang lowly on this site. I've been burned for that comment.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

Oh boy, don't call a mustang lowly on this site. I've been burned for that comment.

I can do it, I don't have to be objective

[maroman1138]

You people that spend your time complaining and throwing opinions about other rides should just build your own. No one cares if you like the new Vette or not. It's a done deal. Don't buy or even look at the damn thing if you don't like it.

[KMPrenger]

Revo...first I have to ask...where have you been? This car has been unveiled for a month a few weeks and now you decide to bitch about it?? lol sorry.

2nd...you can bet the final Stingray power levels will be beyond 450, but not by much. Thinking 460 - 480 tops.

Next, have you seen the TQ curve of the LT1 versus the Ls3? It kills it.

Next, this car will likely run with or very near to ZL1 numbers at the strip, and if the ZL1 is at all running in warm or hot temps then forget about it...this Vette will take it. ZL1 0 - 60 is what...3.9 seconds??? This car runs under 4 seconds as well, with a 100HP deficit.

You can say all you want about the design...thats your opinion. But I don't understand why people are bitching about the power numbers when 1) we don't know them forsure yet. 2) we don't know how fast this car is...just that I'm sure its faster than the C6. 3) this is the base Stingray and there will be even faster performance levels. 4) this car will decimate everything else on the road that is less than 2 or 3 times its price level. 5) your absolutely dreaming if you think the current 426HP Camaro would run remotely close to the straight line performance numbers of this car.

Just drop it. Why in the world should a base Vette need 500+ HP before people feel it is acceptable? The current Z06 has that and it is an ass raping machine which costs 100K.

[GREENSTEVE]

i seen the Corvette at Detroit , it's stunning. When you see it with your own eyes your opinon will change. :wink:

[dmginc]

thats it Revo...beer can exhaust for you!

but seriously...a 3000lb car with 450hp is going to seriously kick ass. some people pay way too much attention to hp numbers...power:weight is what is truly important. that is why a stock 4th gen can keep pace with a stock 5th gen, sure the 5th gen has more ponies under the hood but it weighs like 500lbs more. C7 weighs 1000lbs less then a 5th gen and has more hp, it is going to be an animal! and if you need more power then go see Hennessey, they are working on a 1000hp C7.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/...gray-in-works/

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Revo1

Thanks for the novel.

Camaro: 30k, 426hp.
NEW Corvette: add another 30-35k to your bottom line, and only add only 24hp?

May I point out that even the lowly Mustang GT makes 420hp. It's an unimpressive number, any way you spin it.

Not as unimpressive as the styling, but still.

Novel, you are joking aren't you? Must be. That was simply a short list o facts rebutting your argument that you've been making page after page.

Your point was 450 wasn't enough and wasn't special and that all kinds of cars had that.

Now you are saying that 450 is just not far enough above 420/430?

Please make up your mind so we can continue the discussion.

None of the cars you state will run with this Stingray you keep wanting to bash well ahead of an officially announced HP rating. Not one.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Revo1

Thanks for the novel.

Camaro: 30k, 426hp.
NEW Corvette: add another 30-35k to your bottom line, and only add only 24hp?

May I point out that even the lowly Mustang GT makes 420hp. It's an unimpressive number, any way you spin it.

Not as unimpressive as the styling, but still.

Camaro: $30k, 426 HP.
Corvette: Add another $30k, OVER 24 HP, improved torque curve, a vastly better interior, and performance specs that will send a Camaro crying home to Oshawa.

You're so hung up on a freaking preliminary HP figure that you're ignoring the rest of the package.

[Forty5th]

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

Oh boy, don't call a mustang lowly on this site. I've been burned for that comment.

Originally Posted by Revo1

I can do it, I don't have to be objective

Subjective, Narrow-minded, etc...

Originally Posted by GREENSTEVE

i seen the Corvette at Detroit , it's stunning. When you see it with your own eyes your opinon will change. :wink:

I saw it for 2 days in a row at CHI auto show and I was even more in awe.

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Camaro: $30k, 426 HP.
Corvette: Add another $30k, OVER 24 HP, improved torque curve, a vastly better interior, and performance specs that will send a Camaro crying home to Oshawa.

You're so hung up on a freaking preliminary HP figure that you're ignoring the rest of the package.

Double ditto