01-12-2007, 05:11 PM | #15 |
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The SS is the BEST!
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01-14-2007, 08:19 PM | #16 |
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Z/28 was top dog.
12 bolt rears. 10 bolt in SS models No A/C for weight reduction Best Steering Ratio (tightest) Most rear leafs in springs. Most serious gear sets in rear. Smallest to fit a real Z/28 rear was a set of 4:10's Chamberd exhaust Cross Ram intake options and the list goes on. This doesn't mean there were not some bad ass SS models..... But the Z was and always has been the flag ship of the Camaros. I hope as close to the concept as possible doesn't mean that cheeeezy cheap looking grill. Bring back the "hide a way" head lights for the serious performance models. Bring in the LS7 when you get real valve springs and no more oil starvation to the bearings. Last edited by PerformanceJunkie; 01-14-2007 at 08:34 PM. |
01-14-2007, 09:16 PM | #17 |
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This "debate" reminds me of one where's there's no "right" or "wrong" answer.
As for which 5th Gen. will be "top dog", 'SS' or 'Z28', only time will tell. In my opinion, both 'SS' and 'Z28' Camaro's are great cars in their own respect, whether they're a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th Gen. Whatever the "top dog" is called, bottom line....it's a CAMARO!!! I'll be happy whatever it's designation. |
01-24-2007, 08:19 PM | #18 |
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There will continue to be a debate.
First gens, the 302's were underrated and could keep up with 396 big blocks. 2nd gens, the powerful LT-1 350 could outpower the 396(402) big blocks. The 427 cars were COPO, not SS or Z28. SS died back in 74, and Z28 kept going on being the best and baddest Camaro ever. Only till SLP stepped up in 96 did the SS become a top model. With the future car, who knows. Chevy has taken this approach recently of making the top of the line performance and trim being the SS model, for the exception of the Corvette. My support is behind a Z28. For one reason, and one reason only. I stole this from another board, but its very simple...."Any Chevy can be an SS, but only one car can be a Z28." In the means to pacifiy both the SS and Z28 community, I belive that SS and Z28 could both share a powerful engine, but they would be the "Odd Couple" the SS can be the more civil higher end Camaro with leather and higher trim, while the Z28 gets bigger brakes, tighter suspension, better tires, etc. |
01-25-2007, 12:15 AM | #19 |
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Z28 top dawg baby...i hope so
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01-25-2007, 10:45 AM | #20 |
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well you all keep saying that a SS and a copo only had the 427 but your wrong, your forgetting the Yenco. All and Bigals87z28 I can show you a #'s matching SS Camaro with a 427, so say now the SS never came with a 427. But I am for the SS with a 6-speed because in the past years a SS camaro is rarer than a Z28, Z28 has been the most popular option since the 70 camaro because there were no more SS camaro's till the 90's. That is why I think Chevrolet will give it the SS badge. But I am telling you now they will not release both the SS and Z28, there will be only one.
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01-25-2007, 11:33 PM | #23 |
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Same here, Id like to see GM documents showing the regular production of 427 equiped SS Camaros from 67 to 69. I dont mean dealer or COPO order, I mean SS equiped cars with 427's from the factory, orderd from a dealer, not through COPO.
Yenko is a dealer, as was Baldwin Motion, Nickey, Berger, and Im sure a few other not so well known dealers who wanted to make money on the muscle car craze. |
01-26-2007, 07:41 AM | #24 |
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Not only Yenko's but there were "Motion Performance" cars. They worked with Baldwin Chevrolet in Baldwin long island N.Y. They had stage 1,2 and 3 cars. Check their web site for their latest '69 camaro. Very similar to Unique Performance '69's.
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01-26-2007, 12:24 PM | #25 |
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I think the '69 Camaro had an SS meant to be top dog, but they found the Z28 to be the better of the two in handling and similiar in speed. And then I know the SS dies out in the 70's for a bit and the Z28 was the top dog, and I know a Z28 is rarer from '69, saw it on Barret Jackson. But as for the new Camaro what is being projected is a lineup similiar yo compete with the Mustang, a injected V6 maybe a 3.8, then a possible RS to better the V6's looks and bump up the horsepower, like the Stang's Pony Package, then there will be the Z28 with the LS2 Vette motor with Z06 suspension, and finally a year or two later they should have the LS7 in the SS or LZ-1 or maybe they will put the new LS-9 in it or do LS7 for the SS and a LS9 for a LZ-1 if they decide to do both.
But I would bet this - Base Camaro: (est. 3.8) V6, RS Package: (est. 3.8) V6 (bumped up looks and horsepower), Z28: LS2 6.0 V8 (with Z06 Suspension Package available), ...........eventually SS / LZ-1: LS7 7.0 V8. That is what I would bet on! |
03-14-2007, 10:53 AM | #26 |
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iight man I'll prove it to you as soon as I get picks of the papers and the car and the vin code. But it is #'s matching 69 SS with a 427. How I know he factory ordered the SS through the dealer from Chevrolet.
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03-14-2007, 02:06 PM | #27 |
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Seeing as every other cars top of the line model is SS that is coming out of Chevy, Im gonna guess the maroSS will be top dawg.
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03-14-2007, 05:12 PM | #28 |
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No, the COPO or the ZL1 was the baddest thing you could have in 1969 and the SS was not a midclass Camaro, it was the performance option trim package and you could get any engine size you wanted in that configuration, hence it was considered the top of the line trim package. You are right about the Z28 later, it was a name plate only and in the fourth gen, what did they make SS's out of? That is right, Z28's. So that tells me that the SS is the top model and if all the other cars have a top model of an SS with A high performance engine, then why would they confuse the issue by having an SS model in the Camaro that was not the top dog? I guess we will have to wait and see!
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