10-30-2023, 03:43 PM | #1135 |
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Good to see though so many on this site nevermind other places with basic common sense with regarding this B.S ev garbage trying to be rammed down our throats. It'll bit the manufacturers in the ass soon enough and I'm look forward to it especially gm....😂
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10-30-2023, 03:58 PM | #1136 |
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Another nail in the coffin.
The study authors say the $1.21 cost-per-gallon equivalent of charging a car cited by EV advocates excludes the real costs born by taxpayers for subsidies, utility ratepayers for energy investments, and non-electric vehicle owners for mandate-and-environmental-credit-driven higher vehicle costs, which they say total $48,698 per EV. Those costs must be included when comparing fueling costs of EVs and traditional gas-powered vehicles, TPPF maintains. “The market would be driving towards hybrids if not for this market manipulation from the federal government. We’d be reducing emissions and improving fuel economy at the same time on a much greater scale,” study author Jason Isaac told The Center Square in an interview. He then cited Toyota estimates that the batteries from one EV can power 90 hybrids and reduce emissions 37 times more than that one EV. https://www.thecentersquare.com/nati...b22909078.html |
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10-30-2023, 04:12 PM | #1138 |
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I do, but I’m not a truck guy so I tend to defer to those who are. On the other hand, the EV trucks that are characterized as lifestyle trucks are capable, but not for extended periods of time.
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10-30-2023, 04:16 PM | #1139 |
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Ford assured investors last week that its generous deal with the United Auto Workers wouldn’t threaten its profitability. The same can’t be said of its electric vehicles, which lost $3.1 billion during the first nine months of this year.
…For now, auto makers are simply pumping the brakes on their electric-vehicle investments. Tesla recently paused plans for a new factory in Mexico. General Motors CEO Mary Barra last week scrapped the company’s electric-vehicle production goals, citing flagging demand. Honda on Oct. 25 scuttled plans to manufacture low-cost electric vehicles with GM. EVs are “a pretty brutal space,” Mercedes CFO Harald Wilhelm said the next day. “I can hardly imagine the current status quo is fully sustainable for everybody.” Ford joined the pileup and postponed $12 billion in planned electric-vehicle investment, stating that buyers weren’t willing to pay a premium over gasoline cars—even with a $7,500 federal tax credit and hefty state subsidies. |
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10-30-2023, 04:28 PM | #1141 |
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Don't look now but the wheels are coming off the EV bandwagon.
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10-30-2023, 04:31 PM | #1142 |
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All this green energy isn't really all that clean, eventually it will be but definitely not now.
All this talk about a 10 minute 1000 mile charge being mainstream is a pipe dream, the electric Transmision and Distibution infrastructure would have to have major upgrades to be able to support it. If the U.S. was at all concerned about lowering our carbon footprint they would push for keeping manufacturing in this country with common sense regulations instead of importing half way across the world from a country that just built 200 coal plants while pushing everyone else to be clean. |
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10-30-2023, 04:56 PM | #1145 | |
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I am kind of hoping that there will be an ICE 1500 cause towing long distance I actually could fall into that category when towing my Camaro to events or other towing needs. EV just doesn't have the towing range capability however a 2500 Gasser from any of the big 3 aren't that much more expensive and they aren't doggy anymore like they used to towing 10k or less. |
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I’m assuming we should stop government involvement with oil company subsidies as well? After 150 years of oil exploration, the taxpayers are still continuing to assist oil companies as well Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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