2015 Ford F150

[FenwickHockey65]

It'll undercut GM's trucks by a hundred or so pounds depending on cab/bed/engine configuration, but yeah, basically Ford is just catching up in the weight department.

[Stevew]

A 1/2 ton truck will not do what I need a truck to do. I am looking forward to seeing the specs on the one ton and maybe even the 3/4 ton. It will be a while. I like the current Ford Super Duties. Hoping my 05 Dodge 3500 4X4 keeps going. The wife is tired of it. I do not want to blow $60K on a new truck.

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

GM may revisit the stillborn 4.5L BabyMax diesel V8. That could be an image-changer AND a game-changer. And don't forget the GM HDs will be renewed for '15.

[ChrisBlair]

My understanding is that despite Ford's webpage claims, the entire body is not aluminum alloy.

[Number 3]

Aluminum is much more expensive than steel. Ford is now at a major cost disadvantage to GM and Dodge.

But yes it is 700 pounds lighter than THE CURRENT FORD PICKUP.

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

They completely got rid of the 6.2.

the ecoboost is horrible. the only decent engine they have left is the 5.0

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

The F150 was 600+ lbs heavier than the Silverado, so they're about equal now.

2WD '14 Silverado ...... 2WD '14 F-150
Crew Cab, 5’ 8” box ...... Supercrew, 5' 6" box
4942 lbs. (4.3L) ...... 5128 lbs. (3.7L)
5042 lbs. (5.3L) ...... 5254 lbs. (5.0L)
5156 lbs. (6.2L) ...... 5296 lbs. (3.5L EB)

Crew Cab, 6’ 6” box ...... Supercrew, 6' 6" box
5000 lbs. (4.3L) ...... n/a
5104 lbs. (5.3L) ...... 5345 lbs. (5.0L)
5216 lbs. (6.2L) ...... 5380 lbs. (3.5L EB)

4WD '14 Silverado ...... 4WD '14 F-150
Crew Cab, 5’ 8” box ...... Supercrew, 5' 6" box
5139 lbs. (4.3L) ...... n/a
5218 lbs. (5.3L) ...... 5586 lbs. (5.0L)
5370 lbs. (6.2L) ...... 5615 lbs. (3.5L EB)

Crew Cab, 6’ 6” box ...... Supercrew, 6' 6" box
5197 lbs. (4.3L) ...... n/a
5292 lbs. (5.3L) ...... 5714 lbs. (5.0L)
5429 lbs. (6.2L) ...... 5731 lbs. (3.5L EB)
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2WD '14 Silverado ...... 2WD '14 F-150
Double Cab, 6’ 6” box ...... Supercab, 6' 6" box
4860 lbs. (4.3L) ...... 5043 lbs. (3.7L)
4963 lbs. (5.3L) ...... 5169 lbs. (5.0L)
5074 lbs. (6.2L) ...... 5203 lbs. (3.5L EB)

Double cab, 8' box ...... Super cab, 8' box
n/a ............ 5312 lbs. (5.0L)
n/a ............ 5317 lbs. (3.5L EB)

4WD '14 Silverado ...... 4WD '14 F-150
Double Cab, 6’ 6” box ......Supercab, 6' 6" box
5104 lbs. (4.3L) ...... 5333 lbs. (3.7L)
5201 lbs. (5.3L) ...... 5461 lbs. (5.0L)
5352 lbs. (6.2L) ...... 5476 lbs. (3.5L EB)

Double cab, 8' box ...... Super cab, 8' box
n/a ............ 5604 lbs. (5.0L)
n/a ............ 5620 lbs. (3.5L EB)
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2WD '14 Silverado ...... 2WD '14 F-150
Regular Cab, 6’ 6” box...... Regular cab, 6' 6" box
4387 lbs. (4.3L) ...... 4685 lbs. (3.7L)
4503 lbs. (5.3L) ...... 4791 lbs. (5.0L)
n/a ............ 4953 lbs. (3.5L EB)

Regular Cab, 8’ box ...... Regular cab, 8' box
4567 lbs. (4.3L) ...... 4764 lbs. (3.7L)
4673 lbs. (5.3L) ...... 4901 lbs. (5.0L)
n/a ............ 5073 lbs. (3.5L EB)

4WD '14 Silverado ...... 4WD '14 F-150
Regular Cab, 6’ 6” box ......Regular cab, 6' 6" box
4587 lbs. (4.3L) ...... 4925 lbs. (3.7L)
4707 lbs. (5.3L) ...... 5033 lbs. (5.0L)
n/a ............ 5220 lbs. (3.5L EB)

Regular Cab, 8’ box ...... Regular cab, 8' box
4816 lbs. (4.3L) ...... 4993 lbs. (3.7L)
4922 lbs. (5.3L) ...... 5130 lbs. (5.0L)
n/a ............ 5375 lbs. (3.5L EB)


These lists were compiled from both ford.com and gm.com, so direct from their respective sources, and I don't think there's a model where the Ford outweighs the GM by "600+" lbs. Now, there may be 6.2L Ford trims that may, but seeing as its being phased out of the 1/2 ton I don't see how it's relevant. Though I'll post those as well if anyone interested. That Boss motor is HEAVY. Either way if the "700 lbs" lost is structural, therefore model wide, the 150 will be in a pretty good spot weight wise vs GM and Ram.

[Stock Boy]

I like this truck. I'm down with it. Ecoboosts are awesome if you don't get the dreaded CEL for moisture in the intercooler or whatever they're diagnosing it as. Otherwise they're good to go.

[Scrappy Doo]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

They completely got rid of the 6.2.

They didn't sell many 6.2's.... And for a $3500 MSRP bump for it I can understand why. LOL

Originally Posted by big hammer

the ecoboost is horrible. the only decent engine they have left is the 5.0

A small percentage of eco's had an intercooler issue. The problem is it's random and that makes it hard to diagnose. (As a sidenote, I seem to remember a lot of GM 5.3's with oil pump issues a few years back...Doesn't mean all 5.3s are junk)

And as a side note on engines, it's not like GM's new 5.3 is a gamechanger

Originally Posted by Stock Boy

I like this truck. I'm down with it. Ecoboosts are awesome if you don't get the dreaded CEL for moisture in the intercooler or whatever they're diagnosing it as. Otherwise they're good to go.

Exactly. (And my f150 is a 5.0..... LOL)

[HeavyIOM]

Originally Posted by Scrappy Doo

And as a side note on engines, it's not like GM's new 5.3 is a gamechanger

This is how I feel about GMs new truck lineup. I feel like GM is 4 years behind, and there new stuff is on par with Ford and Rams old stuff that's been around a few years. I personally don't like the new full size offerings from GM, but they are fine trucks nonetheless. GMs a day late a dollar short IMO

[chain777]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

These lists were compiled from both ford.com and gm.com, so direct from their respective sources, and I don't think there's a model where the Ford outweighs the GM by "600+" lbs. Now, there may be 6.2L Ford trims that may, but seeing as its being phased out of the 1/2 ton I don't see how it's relevant. Though I'll post those as well if anyone interested. That Boss motor is HEAVY. Either way if the "700 lbs" lost is structural, therefore model wide, the 150 will be in a pretty good spot weight wise vs GM and Ram.

Thanks for posting that. I knew something didn't add up. It made no sense that the trucks would be close to the same weight now with the extensive use of aluminum in the new F150. Not sure what the "600lbs heavier" comment was based on.

[HeavyIOM]

Originally Posted by chain777

Thanks for posting that. I knew something didn't add up. It made no sense that the trucks would be close to the same weight now with the extensive use of aluminum in the new F150. Not sure what the "600lbs heavier" comment was based on.

It was based on comparing the lightest offering from GM to the heaviest from Ford lol

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by chain777

Thanks for posting that. I knew something didn't add up. It made no sense that the trucks would be close to the same weight now with the extensive use of aluminum in the new F150. Not sure what the "600lbs heavier" comment was based on.

Lost me. Based on the data Ford is no further she'd of GM than GM was ahead of Ford.

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by Stock Boy

I like this truck. I'm down with it. Ecoboosts are awesome if you don't get the dreaded CEL for moisture in the intercooler or whatever they're diagnosing it as. Otherwise they're good to go.

they're not awesome at all. they have the power of a v7 and the efficiency of a v8, with the complexity of a TTv6. zero advantage at all. in reality, the new 6.2 gm offers a huge power advantage with the same economy, and way less headaches. once the ecoboost gets to 60,000+ miles, it's a maintenance nightmare, with turbo and sensor issues. remember, you're putting your faith in a company to build a TT DI v6 that can't even get a spark plug right.

the ecoboost is far from a game changer. if anything, it's a step backwards.