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DSM_Matt · 07-24-2013, 12:15 AM

i have been considering a '14 2SS 1LE NPP but im having trouble finding a dealership salesman that knows what they are talking about. I have owned 2 mustangs most recently a '12 GT 5.0 and i know a lot about blue oval stuff but this will be my first Camaro and ill be the first to admit im no expert. but if i know more about the Camaro than the guy trying to sell it to me thats a problem for me. does anyone have any good recommendations maybe someone you bought from that actually knew what the heck they were talking about.

rberns · 07-24-2013, 12:48 AM

Welcome to the C5. You should check into the Iowa section if you haven't already. As far as your exhaust I would ask Karls Performance in DSM.

DSM_Matt · 07-24-2013, 12:58 AM

thanks for the help much appreciated! im actually talking about buying the car i want to talk to someone who knows performance and camaros ill try karl sounds like they might have someone who knows a thing or two

rberns · 07-24-2013, 01:03 AM

No problem. You should drop in on the Iowa section. Bunch of guys from DSM area that can help you out too and I know they have a bunch of shows and cruise ins.

xtreme2s · 07-24-2013, 10:31 PM

While I have been dealing with Karl Performance in Ankeny, (sister biz of Karl Chevy) I personally know salesman at Bob Brown Chevy whom I have met at many Camaro events... Kendal Cook. (he has an awesum first gen)

Other option, in Iowa section, "powermanpaul" has bought Camaro's from Karl Chevy, and he could steer to person he has dealt with.

Welcome to the Chevy side.

(fyi, I have 2 stangs, stock 09 Shelby 500 vert, and a Livernois Motorsports modded 06 GT)

DSM_Matt · 07-24-2013, 10:46 PM

xtreme2s: i have bought 2 cars from bob brown this year so i feel like i have some pull there i will get in touch with Kendal when the time is right my other salesman quit so i need someone new. BTW: that Livernois GT u have must be awesome. very familiar with their work and know how good it is. major car envy!

xtreme2s · 07-25-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DSM_Matt

xtreme2s: i have bought 2 cars from bob brown this year so i feel like i have some pull there i will get in touch with Kendal when the time is right my other salesman quit so i need someone new. BTW: that Livernois GT u have must be awesome. very familiar with their work and know how good it is. major car envy!

Yes their place is a horsepower making facility, the stang is the second car I had Livernois do, my 10 Camaro is the beast with 628 rwhp at build almost 2 years ago, then couple months ago took it to Karl for a fun dyne pull and she hit a high of 633 rwhp.

Tim

Chris@Livernois · 07-25-2013, 09:26 AM

We love to make HP what can we say!!! OP what are you looking to learn or figure out? We may be able to point you in the right direction sir! -Chris

DSM_Matt · 07-25-2013, 11:09 AM

well to make a long story short i went to get info on the car like performance numbers, and specifics of the 1LE package and why its a good investment vs doing the upgrades in the aftermarket and the salesman i was talking to didnt even know there was a refresh for the '14 model year. needless to say i wont be buying from him

toesuf94 · 07-25-2013, 11:27 AM

I hate to say this, but contact Becky at Rodgers Chevrolet (she is a sponsor here) - a lot of people have had great things to say about her on the forums.

Of course, shameless plug for Tom Henry Chevrolet in PA...great guys to work with and Tom Henry is the cousin of the Fbodfather...so you need Camaro information he will know it.

Welcome either way.

IowaGuy · 08-14-2013, 01:21 PM

For others searching, +1 Bob Brown. Take a tour of the garage. It's amazing.

Hulkamaniac · 08-22-2013, 06:55 PM

One word for you... ZL1.

firefighterassassin · 09-01-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xtreme2s

Yes their place is a horsepower making facility, the stang is the second car I had Livernois do, my 10 Camaro is the beast with 628 rwhp at build almost 2 years ago, then couple months ago took it to Karl for a fun dyne pull and she hit a high of 633 rwhp.

Tim

Wish I had as good of luck at Karl's 8 hrs there, 4 were spent trying to figure out why it would stop making power.nonly to be told its this and this, call manufacter to hear all is well and is a problem with tune. Who to listen too??

xtreme2s · 09-02-2013, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by firefighterassassin

Wish I had as good of luck at Karl's 8 hrs there, 4 were spent trying to figure out why it would stop making power.nonly to be told its this and this, call manufacter to hear all is well and is a problem with tune. Who to listen too??

Sorry to hear about that. Karl Perf did a great job on my 67 Camaro. Took doing the dyno to discover I was under fuel lined for the Barry Grant 6-pak set I have.

07-24-2013, 12:15 AM	#1
DSM_Matt Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 13	DES MOINES, IOWA AND NEED HELP i have been considering a '14 2SS 1LE NPP but im having trouble finding a dealership salesman that knows what they are talking about. I have owned 2 mustangs most recently a '12 GT 5.0 and i know a lot about blue oval stuff but this will be my first Camaro and ill be the first to admit im no expert. but if i know more about the Camaro than the guy trying to sell it to me thats a problem for me. does anyone have any good recommendations maybe someone you bought from that actually knew what the heck they were talking about.

07-24-2013, 12:48 AM	#2
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	Welcome to the C5. You should check into the Iowa section if you haven't already. As far as your exhaust I would ask Karls Performance in DSM. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

07-24-2013, 01:03 AM	#4
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	No problem. You should drop in on the Iowa section. Bunch of guys from DSM area that can help you out too and I know they have a bunch of shows and cruise ins. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

07-25-2013, 11:27 AM	#10
toesuf94 Drives: THR #11 E-force supercharged Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 4,746	I hate to say this, but contact Becky at Rodgers Chevrolet (she is a sponsor here) - a lot of people have had great things to say about her on the forums. Of course, shameless plug for Tom Henry Chevrolet in PA...great guys to work with and Tom Henry is the cousin of the Fbodfather...so you need Camaro information he will know it. Welcome either way. __________________ Cars and women are both going to give you problems...but you can pay somebody else to fix your car!

07-24-2013, 12:58 AM	#3
DSM_Matt Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 13	thanks for the help much appreciated! im actually talking about buying the car i want to talk to someone who knows performance and camaros ill try karl sounds like they might have someone who knows a thing or two

07-24-2013, 10:31 PM	#5
xtreme2s Drives: Livernois Motorsports 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Iowa Posts: 445 View My Garage	While I have been dealing with Karl Performance in Ankeny, (sister biz of Karl Chevy) I personally know salesman at Bob Brown Chevy whom I have met at many Camaro events... Kendal Cook. (he has an awesum first gen) Other option, in Iowa section, "powermanpaul" has bought Camaro's from Karl Chevy, and he could steer to person he has dealt with. Welcome to the Chevy side. (fyi, I have 2 stangs, stock 09 Shelby 500 vert, and a Livernois Motorsports modded 06 GT)

07-24-2013, 10:46 PM	#6
DSM_Matt Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 13	xtreme2s: i have bought 2 cars from bob brown this year so i feel like i have some pull there i will get in touch with Kendal when the time is right my other salesman quit so i need someone new. BTW: that Livernois GT u have must be awesome. very familiar with their work and know how good it is. major car envy!

07-25-2013, 09:26 AM	#8
Chris@Livernois Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dearborn Heights, MI Posts: 829	We love to make HP what can we say!!! OP what are you looking to learn or figure out? We may be able to point you in the right direction sir! -Chris

07-25-2013, 11:09 AM	#9
DSM_Matt Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 13	well to make a long story short i went to get info on the car like performance numbers, and specifics of the 1LE package and why its a good investment vs doing the upgrades in the aftermarket and the salesman i was talking to didnt even know there was a refresh for the '14 model year. needless to say i wont be buying from him

08-14-2013, 01:21 PM	#11
IowaGuy Drives: 2013 Cyber Gray Metallic Chevy Volt Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Lives on camaro5 Posts: 353 View My Garage	For others searching, +1 Bob Brown. Take a tour of the garage. It's amazing.

08-22-2013, 06:55 PM	#12
Hulkamaniac Livin' the Dream Drives: '23 Charger GT, '23 Stingray Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Hiding in your closet... Posts: 785 View My Garage	One word for you... ZL1.