Shno's House of Z

[JusticePete]

2 V6 / SS offer low pressure nitrogen charged hydraulic struts
1 offers MR shocks
1 offers DSSV shocks

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

MRC can accommodate cushy ride and performance taught.

I get that the MRC is a great system but it would be wasted on me. I enjoy the ride of my 1LE so I would never adjust it to a softer setting. If they do build a 1LE, I would prefer they spend the R&D money on making the car faster around a track than developing the MRC system for that car. GM needs to leave something for the enthusiasts and I think it should be the 1LE. It is already a low volume option but is very well regarded.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Today, the are 4 Chassis configurations in the Camaro, 5 if you count the V6 cars.

SS, 1LE, ZL1, Z/28

1 offers MR shocks
1 offers DSSV shocks

GM may elect to maintain all 4 but I can see 1LE and Z/28 being folded into 1 car. This is a lot of variation, but I also see GM having to at least match Ford with the GT, Track Pack, GT350 and GT500.

I think they are an engine short of maintaining the 4 for Gen 6. But as I've said, I hope there is a new variant in the works that fits in where the wonderful LS7 sits today. I think that engine could also benefit a Grand Sport Corvette.


Think of the Gen 5 without the LS7...............or think of a 1LE with the LS7, something many were hoping for.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out and I would bet that whenever the Gen 6 is introduced to the public...............these questions will not be answered.

Based on what they did with the Corvette, I bet they plan on using the SS to cover the GT, GT track pack and GT350. The Z/28, probably LT4 powered, will try to cover the GT350R and GT500.

As much as I hope they build a new LTx engine, I haven't seen any rumors or hints at an LS6 like engine or even a new Grand Sport. With the gen V small block, GM skipped to the end with the LT1 and LT4. I doubt they will build anything else. All the rumors I have been seeing are the C7 being a stop gap car for the C8 mid engine car.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I get that the MRC is a great system but it would be wasted on me. I enjoy the ride of my 1LE so I would never adjust it to a softer setting. If they do build a 1LE, I would prefer they spend the R&D money on making the car faster around a track than developing the MRC system for that car. GM needs to leave something for the enthusiasts and I think it should be the 1LE. It is already a low volume option but is very well regarded.

I thought I'd leave the suspension set to "sport" all the time too but once I felt "tour" take most of the bobbing bounce out, I quickly preferred to leave it there when just driving around town. Its really nice!

Sport and PTM is for play time. Tour is great for around town

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I get that the MRC is a great system but it would be wasted on me. I enjoy the ride of my 1LE so I would never adjust it to a softer setting. If they do build a 1LE, I would prefer they spend the R&D money on making the car faster around a track than developing the MRC system for that car. GM needs to leave something for the enthusiasts and I think it should be the 1LE. It is already a low volume option but is very well regarded.

The 1LE is well regarded and justifiably so. I am guessing here, but if there is a 6th Gen 1LE option it will most likely be six pot fronts / bigger brakes, differential, stab bars, wheels and tires.

The 5th Gen 1LE has revised struts. With MRC there is no need to physically change th struts. At most, they get a more aggressive program.

Overall, I expect to see MRC on all but the least expensive GM vehicles. It ties into the the safety net of ABS, TC and SC that GM started a few years back. As the cost continues to drop the usage will increase.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

The 1LE is well regarded and justifiably so. I am guessing here, but if there is a 6th Gen 1LE option it will most likely be six pot fronts / bigger brakes, differential, stab bars, wheels and tires.

The 5th Gen 1LE has revised struts. With MRC there is no need to physically change th struts. At most, they get a more aggressive program.

Overall, I expect to see MRC on all but the least expensive GM vehicles. It ties into the the safety net of ABS, TC and SC that GM started a few years back. As the cost continues to drop the usage will increase.

Unfortunately, I agree. I believe GM is going to consolidate everything in as few models as they can. It cuts down their R&D and the number of engines they have to develop. The SS will more than likely cover what the current SS, 1LE and, to some extent, the Z/28 in that it's the high performance N/A car. The Z/28 will cover the ZL1 and Z/28, where the base SS can't.

If the SS comes with MRC, there really is nowhere else they can take it with a simple package like the 1LE is today. It would force it out of existence. At most, it would be some brakes and tires, with maybe some aero.

If I had any say, I would build it like this:

Improved LT1 to 500+ hp/tq
7 speed manual
hard top only
19" wheels with 295 square tires
Torsen LSD with optimized rear gears. Not sure if 3.91s are needed like on current 1LE and Z/28.
Upgraded bushings, maybe urethane
Would prefer hydraulic dampers
6 pot front, 4 pot rear Brembos with two piece rotors
Recaros
Alcantera steering wheel and shifter
Full aero or at least tiered aero system like Z06/Z07

[Janet]

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[hotlap]

Janet - that Z06 looks awesome in white!

[JusticePete]

Sweeeeet!

[dr damon]

Janet, sweet ZO6!! Congrats. Will keep an eye and ear out for you.

[Number 3]

Love that car. Very nice and thanks for sharing the pics.

[JusticePete]

Happy New Year!

[SEVEN-OH JOE]

I hear that recent 'Ring times have NOT been record-breakers. However, an inspection of the track may give some clue as to the reasons why. Exhibit #1:

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http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorspo...ngin-the-snow/

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by SEVEN-OH JOE

I hear that recent 'Ring times have NOT been record-breakers. However, an inspection of the track may give some clue as to the reasons why. Exhibit #1:

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http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorspo...ngin-the-snow/

The conditions looked fine when we saw the sixth gen spy shots so hopefully we'll see an expected lower dry time for the Z/28. Maybe they'll give it to us to hold us off for the sixth gen reveal. Doesn't make much sense to show the time after all the Z/28s are sold.