02-14-2013, 12:22 PM | #1 | |
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Lingenfelter: New LT1 Engine a Challenge for Tuners
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02-14-2013, 02:30 PM | #2 |
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Well pee in my corn flakes.
Id be sastified with 550-600 in a car this light. We will see. |
02-15-2013, 03:21 PM | #3 |
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How "tunable" is the BoschBox-equipped DI 3.6 V6, after how many years?
That's what's ahead for the Gen-5 SBC... |
02-15-2013, 03:34 PM | #4 |
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Pure conjecture. People said the same thing about LS6, LS7. I'm sure people worried when Gen III debuted and then again when Gen IV and AFM came out. Remember when OBDII was the end of performance upgrades?
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02-15-2013, 06:02 PM | #5 |
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LPE has tuned a "few" cars.
I wouldn't call it conjecture but foresight. Just my opinion though. |
02-15-2013, 08:15 PM | #6 |
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I'll wait for testing and real world numbers. But honestly, for me? I'm sure the base version will be all the power I'll ever be able to use on the street and way more Never been much of a bench racer - if a GTR can hit 60 in 3.2 seconds versus my 3.9 seconds? Woohoo - damn, that's going to impress the chicks down at the Dairy Queen huh? :second:
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02-17-2013, 07:47 AM | #7 |
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Well, hopefully when my car gets to Lingy, that have it all perfected.
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02-17-2013, 11:48 AM | #8 |
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I would tend to agree with LPE on this one. The compression ratio on the LT1 is 11 to 1, if the block can handle it it will have to be stroked in order to add boost.
For all the guys who think stock is more power than they will ever need.....really? I have a LPE Camaro with 706 horses at the rear wheels....I still want more. Windy also has a LPE beast of a car. I guess if you want a cool daily driver its just fine. However if you want to be able cruise and kick butt on the track or strip....a visit to Lingenfelter is just what the doctor ordered. |
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While I agree the Bosch ECM will be difficult to get into and start tuning, with time and resources it will be fully open. The LLT's biggest draw back is it's a small market compared to the V8 world. Some people have decided to chase it which has brought the limited tuning that exists today, but if ever aftermarket company were chomping at the bit to get into it it would be a completely different story. Quote:
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The biggest draw back will be the fuel system. Increasing output from a mechanical system is not going to be easy. There will be "easy" fixes that work once the limit is reached. Things like methanol injection would work to a degree while still being safe. My fear will be that someone will decide to "add" traditional injectors and a stand alone fuel system to fix any limitations. These technically work, but are notoriously inconsistent. Again, given time, everything will work out just fine. The aftermarket will develop high output mechanical pumps, and larger injector nozzles. Also, GM is not going to weaken the engine compared to an LS series. They will concentrate on NVH improvements. Typically this means to add material either in quantity, or quality to an engine block, crank, and rods. By doing so, it makes it stronger. Note the crankshafts all use an 8-bolt design for the flywheel compared to a traditional (besides LSA and LS9) 6-bolt. |
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02-21-2013, 01:08 PM | #10 | |
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Getting into DI applications with their extremely high fuel pressures requires very precise calibrations, NOT "good enough" piggyback apps...and for those to be accomplished requires direct OEM/Tier "support". Stay tuned... |
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02-21-2013, 04:52 PM | #11 |
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They will use this as an excuse to charge outrageous prices
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02-22-2013, 10:24 AM | #12 |
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I would like to say :nono:
But I'm sure it:sad: |
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So true |
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