[ninetres]

Originally Posted by Chub2000

I totally agree. I pulled my ceramics off of my GT3. A replacement set from Porsche costs $22,000...

^^^This is why I think CCB are silly. Not that you did anything wrong, I feel like a majority of CCB car owners do this. But it’s worth minimally a chuckle that people buy such an expensive option, immediately remove it, and shelve it until they sell the car. Just seems like a waste of money and time from the start. The car depreciates with or without them.....and most don’t ever leave them on.

Another option would be to save the money for CCB, and run either a high end option like AP Racing Radi-Cals, or An RPS Carbon/Carbon setup.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by hashtag

Probably a $7K brake option on the 2019 model year.

I can live with that. However, it will probably be wrapped in a package costing 9-10 gs. I am ok with that.

[Mountain]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

They’ll last longer on the street, I like the initial brake bite, less dust, lighter, It’s a part they already have, and I like the looks.

At least you have a well based reason for yourself. Within the normal market, iron will do most of that and cost less though. Money saved wins and allows budgeting in other areas.

[Mountain]

Originally Posted by hashtag

That power plant in my opinion would not outpower the LT4. Track times better than the ZL1 1LE? They have their work cut out for them

Lighter engine. NA, so you can also potentially cut down on cooling items or size. So, less weight. Strip down the car a little more. More weight removed. The ZL1 1LE is still a 3800# car.

It’s hard to say without knowing what GM can get out of a 5.5L, especially if DOHC. At DOHC, I wouldn’t be shocked at over 500 horse.

[hashtag]

Originally Posted by Mountain

Lighter engine. NA, so you can also potentially cut down on cooling items or size. So, less weight. Strip down the car a little more. More weight removed. The ZL1 1LE is still a 3800# car.

It’s hard to say without knowing what GM can get out of a 5.5L, especially if DOHC. At DOHC, I wouldn’t be shocked at over 500 horse.

You can yes, keeping it within Camaro budget sense I do not see it.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Mountain

At least you have a well based reason for yourself. Within the normal market, iron will do most of that and cost less though. Money saved wins and allows budgeting in other areas.

That’s why I say offer it as an option. If you want them you buy them. If you don’t you don’t buy them. At a minimum make it an option.

[waterman]

[Stephen12ZL1]

you can almost bet the car pictured does not have the LT5 as it sits higher in the engine bay requiring a larger bubble in the hood as the LT5 supercharger is much taller

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

you can almost bet the car pictured does not have the LT5 as it sits higher in the engine bay requiring a larger bubble in the hood as the LT5 supercharger is much taller

Looking at the hood from my phone appears to be a leather wrap. Am I seeing things wrong?

[JamesNoBrakes]

With winter tires

[kwav8r]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Looking at the hood from my phone appears to be a leather wrap. Am I seeing things wrong?

Looks like velcro tape. That way they can slap coverups on the car to keep us all guessing.

After seeing a few other photos I'm starting to think it's an original ZL1 1LE test car with a carbon brake kit for testing.

[camaro5]

I found another article with more pics.

Notice the standard headlights?

CC brakes, ZL1 with standard headlights?

Smells like a Z28 test mule to me.

2019 wheels.

Factor in the headlights, which appear to be the basic units and we end up with the idea that GM could be working on a new Camaro Z/28.

The sheer idea of yet another Camaro track special is enough to get us excited and, as for how the engineers could one-up the ZL1 1LE, there are multiple possibilities.

Sure, the spied car, which has manufacturer plates on it, could always be a ZL1 test mule for carbon-ceramic brakes. But if we allow the speculation to build up, we can easily think of a 2019 Camaro Z/28 that would take the muscle car genre below the 7m Green Hell mark. And such a result would deserve quite a special page in the history book

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/i...8-122693.html#

At first glance, this test car appears to be a ZL1 1LE , but without the massive rear wing. Upon further inspection, it's clear that this development car is fitted with carbon ceramic brakes, something that the 1LE does not have. This may end up being GM testing carbon ceramic brakes as an option for the 1LE, but there is reason to think that it could be much more. For starters, the headlights appear to be from the base Camaro, not upgraded ZL1 units with LED running lights. This is something that separated the ZL1 and Z/28 in the previous generation. The previous generation ZL1 used halo headlights whereas the Z/28 used more basic halogen lights.

GM also has some room to improve the Camaro's power by dropping in the new LT5 V8 from the C7 ZR1 Corvette. The 1LE already has weight reduction over the standard ZL1, but the Z/28 could focus on even further weight reduction in pursuit of faster lap times. We'll have to wait and see what GM has in store for the Camaro, but our guess is that ZL1 1LE won't be the top dog Camaro for much longer.

https://carbuzz.com/news/camaro-spys...ing-z-28-model

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[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Mountain

Lighter engine. NA, so you can also potentially cut down on cooling items or size. So, less weight. Strip down the car a little more. More weight removed. The ZL1 1LE is still a 3800# car.

It’s hard to say without knowing what GM can get out of a 5.5L, especially if DOHC. At DOHC, I wouldn’t be shocked at over 500 horse.

Even if it's lighter, I don't see a 500 ish HP Camaro outrunning the ZLE.

Maybe on short tracks, but I think the extra power on a track like the Ring would win out.

[george]

i wonder if AWD is in the future?