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Old 04-03-2018, 12:34 PM   #113
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Tesla stock dropped 21% in March alone, it's down right at 34% from it's high in 2017


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Old 04-03-2018, 12:57 PM   #114
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I wish some of my friends that put Tesla on the same pedestal as Apple would read that and realize how troubled the company really is.
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 04-03-2018, 01:36 PM   #115
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I wish some of my friends that put Tesla on the same pedestal as Apple would read that and realize how troubled the company really is.
Yes... hard to put them on the same playing field when one has over $250 BILLION in the bank offshore, and the other is blowing thru BILLIONS it has in loans and bonds and has BILLIONS due in payments soon!
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:11 PM   #116
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I recall reading that the part-time, get ready to take over driving just in case type of system had already been proven to be the most dangerous....Either full time autonomy or full time driver....the in-between is the most problematic and unreliable....

I don't see how they can say self-driving cars overall will save lives, if you have to pay attention all the time to take over driving from part time in an emergency....Why not pay attention full time like you should in the first place and just drive the friggin' car?...

More lives will be lost to cater to the desire for laziness and self-indulgence provided by autonomous cars and their hi-tech lackeys...
That is the big confusion today. No car "sold" to the public today...Tesla, Audi, Cadillac, etc. is a "Self driving" car. They are driver assistance systems there for when you want them to be. Not when you do not want them to be. Do they save lives? YES! Just like Lane Keep Assist, Adaptive Cruise, etc. does. They can and have corrected when drivers did not. This statistic has been proven over and over with assistance systems.

Those who view these assistance system as self-driving and get lazy....those are the statistics you are reading about. I put over 9500 miles on a "Super Cruise" Demo. was not sure if I would really "want" it. Heck my Camaro is a manual as I like to drive. However, I learned when driving from A to B down an interstate I really became accustomed to letting the car do most of the work for me. Traffic was a lot less stressful as well. Just something you have to experience and not something you can learn to truly enjoy the first time you are in one and not accustomed to it.

A true "Self Driving" car sold to the public is a long way off in my opinion. Think about it, the manufacturer of said vehicle would be taking on the responsibility of the passengers safety.
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:56 AM   #117
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The last sentence of that ^ article made me laugh..I'm not sure any of his projects are profitable. He operates on ideas space x, solar electricity...he's an interesting fellow
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Old 05-03-2018, 07:55 AM   #119
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Elon's sounding frustrated.
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:32 AM   #120
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If all of my promises were premature, coming up half-full or empty, and I was burning through tons of $$s I'd borrowed in the first place........I'd be frustrated, too.
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:43 AM   #121
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Tesla stock is paying the price this morning.
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Old 05-03-2018, 01:25 PM   #122
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How dare investors question Elon the Magnificent about what he's doing with their money. Don't they know that he is the future? A real life Tony Stark. He has a vision, and all they need to do is keep giving him billions of dollars and it will happen. What don't they understand about that?

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If all of my promises were premature, coming up half-full or empty, and I was burning through tons of $$s I'd borrowed in the first place........I'd be frustrated, too.
If all my promises were premature and at best came half true, I'd stop making wild assed promises.
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Old 05-03-2018, 01:47 PM   #123
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Anheuser-Busch orders 800 hydrogen-powered semi trucks from Tesla rival Nikola


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Old 05-03-2018, 02:59 PM   #124
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How dare investors question Elon the Magnificent about what he's doing with their money. Don't they know that he is the future? A real life Tony Stark. He has a vision, and all they need to do is keep giving him billions of dollars and it will happen. What don't they understand about that?


If all my promises were premature and at best came half true, I'd stop making wild assed promises.
Well...none of us here are Elon Musk.

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That's more than Wal-Mart's 15 Tesla Trucks.......
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:29 PM   #125
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Semis powered by fuel cells make an awful lot of sense.

The infrastructure issue becomes much easier to tackle as you just need to put one every couple hundred miles at a truck stop. There is tons of space to put the fuel tanks. The weight of the system should be comparable to that of a diesel powertrain (vs an electric semi that would be almost entirely battery to go any distance). Since fuel cells are electric drive you get the low rpm torque that a huge heavy truck needs. And as an added bonus, there is no need for an APU to power things while the truck is stopped.

Its as close to an ideal pairing as I can think of.
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:58 PM   #126
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Well...none of us here are Elon Musk.



That's more than Wal-Mart's 15 Tesla Trucks.......
That's 'cause the Anheuser Busch trucks are dropping off product. The Wal-Mart fleet is just processing the bottle deposits.
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