10-08-2012, 01:21 PM | #29 |
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The orginal post is easy to find on the internet but the question here was just posed to question what is best practices on this matter. What responsibility does Camaro 5 have to the members and other sponsers to be honest even if it is not always what a sponsor wants to hear. 1st admendment or censorship by fourms aside, would a sponsor/dealer of products not want the the chance to answer bad press instead of having the thread removed/closed. Once it is out there you can not make it disappear just by closing the post.
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10-08-2012, 01:22 PM | #30 |
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10-08-2012, 01:26 PM | #32 |
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I like this site, but the sensorship is out of control! Makes you question where you live? If they dont agree with you in the sligtest way they will threaten to Ban you. Oh Oh this could be my last post!
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10-08-2012, 01:28 PM | #33 | |
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10-08-2012, 01:34 PM | #35 |
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Sorry but that's the most messed up thing I've ever seen, and that thread DESERVED to stay open. I see no reason for it to be closed, legal or otherwise. Plus, that video has gone viral and the story is being reported from gminsidenews to jalopnik. Why close it?
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10-08-2012, 01:35 PM | #36 |
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This is why these posts get so far out of control is folks lose sight of the original issue.
It is NOT about the legality of the recording. It is NOT about GM looking bad since this is clearly about the Dealership, Best Chevrolet, and they are separate business entity. It is about a fellow Camaro5 member who had been wronged and our inability to express our support to/for him. Those bashing GM are not getting it. Those questioning the legalities of the recording are not getting it. IMHO! This is about showing support for a member in his time of need. A time when social media could be his greatest ally. If Camaro5 does not want to support their members as we have supported them, the least they could do is let us know why they have chosen to turn their back on their community. T.
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How can a recording catching someone red handed not be Fact?????? If they support the Camaro crowd you think they would stand behind them a little. |
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10-08-2012, 01:44 PM | #39 |
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what crime did they commit? reckless driving?
I'm not on their side! I think they should be fired in a heart beat but recording without their consent and posting it on here is likely one of the reasons this is gone |
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I expect we will not get a clear answer...because I expect Cam5 is, indeed, in bed with GM. Someone said that a positive of that is the forum gives you a voice GM would have otherwise not heard. Well, not if that voice is quickly silenced. The member who posted up the original thread had a legitimate issue with a GM dealer. The ONLY reason Cam5 mods would close said thread would be their contractual obligation to silence any negative postings and/or comments about GM as quickly and efficiently as possible. If this were not the case, why not let people post? With the national attention this is getting, it could catapult the site into the national spotlight with news media potentially quoting members of the forum in support of the member in question. But NO. Rather than do the right thing, the mods have decided to brush this member's issues under the rug and turn the other cheek. It's sickening to say the least because we are still expected to support this site, but the site refuses to do the same for us. I've been saying for a long time that the censorship here is running absolutely rampant, but this is, by far, the biggest act of I've seen since I've been on here. Either bring back the original, legitimate thread, and get off GM's nuts, or put a disclaimer up saying "Welcome to Camaro5....sponsored by GM. No negative comments/threads about GM or GM dealerships will be tolerated." I'm disappointed..and more than a little . |
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10-08-2012, 01:46 PM | #41 |
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If this site is all about the sponsors and not the members as some would belive. Why would not the sponsors take issue with the removal. It is the reputation of the site they chose to be associated with that can become tarnished and that would devalue the effect of there paid sponsorship. Sponsors your thoughts.
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according to SC law only 1 parties consent is needed if it is not an electronic (telephone) conversation.. so in this case the victim did nothing wrong with respect to recording without consent. . and if you listened to the whole thing, they committed several crimes, reckless driving the least of it. They were conspiring to commit fraud, charge the customer for the clutch install, then turn around and bill GM for the pressure plate install so the tech gets paid twice for the same job.. Everyone b*tches and moans about the cost of dealer repairs, the cost of extended warranties, the cost of blah blah blah.. Well Fraud like this is a prime example of why those things cost so damn much.. |
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