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Bo White · 12-23-2017, 08:48 AM

the 6th gen is for one a different vehicle all together. I think it shares 1 part with the 5th gen. Its all new basicly. The engine is 11.5:1 so it will gain more on E85 and has direct injection so it has a lower injector duty cycle right off the bat.

Bo White · 12-23-2017, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunmetal Speedster

I'd take it with a grain of salt until you see a dyno sheet haha

Agreed. Ive yet to see anyone gain near that much n/a. No matter the engine.

alaskacamaro · 12-23-2017, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashen L99

How is it that my 6th gen buddies were just able to get the flex sensor and run full e85? I have 2 that have done it. One car is a blue 16', A8, with a stall, small blower cam, full exhaust and e85. He is still NA. The other is a white 17', M6, with ported throttle body, full exhaust, and e85. They both claim it is 40 hp easy. Now this is all them talking a big game but I have yet to see dynographs. point is, they are both pushing me to get lsa injectors, zl1 fuel pump and the sensor so I can run corn. How is it that we aren't seeing the "gains" they are? You can't tell me the new LT1 is just that good...

Maybe he meant 40whp total with all mods done, not just E85? I was told 10-15whp (e85) was a normal increase with my setup. The larger tq increase was due to the cam I think...

Also, it looks like your l99 is a 14 or 15 model and I thought they started putting ZL1 pumps in all SS models by then?

Ashen L99 · 12-23-2017, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by alaskacamaro

Maybe he meant 40whp total with all mods done, not just E85? I was told 10-15whp (e85) was a normal increase with my setup. The larger tq increase was due to the cam I think...

Also, it looks like your l99 is a 14 or 15 model and I thought they started putting ZL1 pumps in all SS models by then?

I spoke earlier today with my buddy with the blue a8. He baselined at 381 to the wheel. With all mods he is putting down 495. The switch from 93 to E85, it picked up about 30 hp. On our cars we get 2-10? Damn. The thing is, around these parts I only have access to 91. I wonder what I would pick up...

Where did you hear that the 14-15 models have the ZL one pump? I'm pretty sure the only thing I've heard of is that the 1LE cars have it, regardless of model year.

alaskacamaro · 12-24-2017, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashen L99

I spoke earlier today with my buddy with the blue a8. He baselined at 381 to the wheel. With all mods he is putting down 495. The switch from 93 to E85, it picked up about 30 hp. On our cars we get 2-10? Damn. The thing is, around these parts I only have access to 91. I wonder what I would pick up...

Where did you hear that the 14-15 models have the ZL one pump? I'm pretty sure the only thing I've heard of is that the 1LE cars have it, regardless of model year.

From what I understand all SS 14 and 15 models switched to a ZL1 pump and electrical steering. I’m guessing Chevy wanted standardization after introducing the 1LE.

When I lived in Alaska I was stuck with 91 pump too. Had to add Teroco (1/4 can) per tank to improve octane level. With the Teroco added and all my mods I was dynoed 490whp and 460wtq. Of course every dyno is different and “numbers” are only part of the equation.

Like BO stated, 30whp raise on a n/a only engine seems very high. Usually huge gains like that are seen on FI engines using corn or meth...

Ashen L99 · 12-24-2017, 08:19 PM

From what I understand all SS 14 and 15 models switched to a ZL1 pump and electrical steering. I’m guessing Chevy wanted standardization after introducing the 1LE.

Who can confirm this?

Gunmetal Speedster · 12-25-2017, 05:15 PM

I received the flex fuel sensor from DSX for Christmas. Will take me some time to actually get the injectors to go with it, but I'll be sure to do a before/after dyno as well since I'm N/A just to show the results. I plan on F/I way down the road so it will help in the end regardless haha.

Clarkstar · 12-25-2017, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmetal Speedster

I received the flex fuel sensor from DSX for Christmas. Will take me some time to actually get the injectors to go with it, but I'll be sure to do a before/after dyno as well since I'm N/A just to show the results. I plan on F/I way down the road so it will help in the end regardless haha.

Nice!!! Anxious to see the results

johnnyb305mia · 01-02-2018, 11:48 AM

Curently on E85 i only run E85 no its not my daily and even if it was i would still only run E85. My set up is the following...

Intake
Gmpp exhaust
1 7/8th catless mild steel headers
Fuel crossover
OEM FF sensor
Howards ASA Cam
ZZP Pushrods
160 stat
950cc FIC Modded OEM Injectors
E85
305/45/18 Tire
Nitrous Outlet Plate Kit (100 shot)

Bo White · 01-02-2018, 12:21 PM

Those 950cc injectors for future boost?
Nice that the 1LE has the ZL1 pump from the factory.

Ashen L99 · 05-24-2018, 06:37 AM

Can anyone confirm about the zl-1 fuel pump in the 14-15 Camaro SS’s?

Baddbird · 05-24-2018, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashen L99

Can anyone confirm about the zl-1 fuel pump in the 14-15 Camaro SS’s?

No they are different.

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RyangAsh · 05-24-2018, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Baddbird

No they are different.

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From everything I have seen, the 1LE's have a ZL1 fuel pump in them..not sure if this helps.

Baddbird · 05-24-2018, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RyangAsh

From everything I have seen, the 1LE's have a ZL1 fuel pump in them..not sure if this helps.

1LE is the same as the ZL1 but the SS are different

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12-23-2017, 08:48 AM	#29
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	the 6th gen is for one a different vehicle all together. I think it shares 1 part with the 5th gen. Its all new basicly. The engine is 11.5:1 so it will gain more on E85 and has direct injection so it has a lower injector duty cycle right off the bat. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

12-24-2017, 08:19 PM	#34
Ashen L99 Drives: Ashen grey, 1SS, L99 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 527	From what I understand all SS 14 and 15 models switched to a ZL1 pump and electrical steering. I’m guessing Chevy wanted standardization after introducing the 1LE. Who can confirm this? __________________ Roto-fab CAI, Nick Williams 102mm TB, LOD X1 V3 intake manifold, GMPP LS3 heads, Night Fury cam, TSP 2” long tubes, Corsa ZL-1 catback, Nitrous Outlet 102mm plate kit/150 shot, NGK BR7EF plugs with Taylor plug wires, DSX flex fuel kit, ZL-1 fuel pump and injectors, B&M deep trans pan, Yank 3400 converter, 3.45s with BMR Delrin bushings, mishimoto 169° Thermostat, GM ground effects, T-Rex upper grill, Z/28 Spoiler, Lolly pop Lime brake calipers, ZL1 10 spoke wheels, 12” subwoofer, and custom paint matched interior.

12-25-2017, 05:15 PM	#35
Gunmetal Speedster Drives: Savitar; The 500rwhp N/A Monster! Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 2,914 View My Garage	I received the flex fuel sensor from DSX for Christmas. Will take me some time to actually get the injectors to go with it, but I'll be sure to do a before/after dyno as well since I'm N/A just to show the results. I plan on F/I way down the road so it will help in the end regardless haha. __________________ **SOLD504HP/433**TQ \| Night Fury cammed • Cold Air Inductions intake • Bo White ported TB • Speed Engineering 1 7/8 longtubes • NPP catback • QTP low profile cutouts • Powerbond 25% UDP • 3.73 gears • JRE scoop • ZL1 grille • R1 Concepts drilled/slotted rotors • built/tuned by Weapon X Motorsports Instagram \| YouTube \| Build Thread

01-02-2018, 12:21 PM	#38
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Those 950cc injectors for future boost? Nice that the 1LE has the ZL1 pump from the factory. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

05-24-2018, 06:37 AM	#39
Ashen L99 Drives: Ashen grey, 1SS, L99 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 527	Can anyone confirm about the zl-1 fuel pump in the 14-15 Camaro SS’s? __________________ Roto-fab CAI, Nick Williams 102mm TB, LOD X1 V3 intake manifold, GMPP LS3 heads, Night Fury cam, TSP 2” long tubes, Corsa ZL-1 catback, Nitrous Outlet 102mm plate kit/150 shot, NGK BR7EF plugs with Taylor plug wires, DSX flex fuel kit, ZL-1 fuel pump and injectors, B&M deep trans pan, Yank 3400 converter, 3.45s with BMR Delrin bushings, mishimoto 169° Thermostat, GM ground effects, T-Rex upper grill, Z/28 Spoiler, Lolly pop Lime brake calipers, ZL1 10 spoke wheels, 12” subwoofer, and custom paint matched interior.

01-02-2018, 11:48 AM	#37
johnnyb305mia Drives: 2015 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Miami Posts: 354	Curently on E85 i only run E85 no its not my daily and even if it was i would still only run E85. My set up is the following... Intake Gmpp exhaust 1 7/8th catless mild steel headers Fuel crossover OEM FF sensor Howards ASA Cam ZZP Pushrods 160 stat 950cc FIC Modded OEM Injectors E85 305/45/18 Tire Nitrous Outlet Plate Kit (100 shot)