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Bo White · 12-18-2017, 05:19 PM

I have a buddy running a ZL1 pump without a BAP on a simular build. His is DC is higher than mine.

xc_SS/RS · 12-19-2017, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

I have a buddy running a ZL1 pump without a BAP on a simular build. His is DC is higher than mine.

did not know that... gonna rethink my plan of attack lol

SrtWtF · 12-19-2017, 07:28 PM

I'm running E85 with just injectors, Zl1 pump, and adm fpcm. I saw nice gain, drivability same as stock. But then again I've ran Corn in all my modded cars ^_^

Clarkstar · 12-19-2017, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SrtWtF

I'm running E85 with just injectors, Zl1 pump, and adm fpcm. I saw nice gain, drivability same as stock. But then again I've ran Corn in all my modded cars ^_^

What's a nice gain?

Slammed1000 · 12-19-2017, 08:21 PM

I run a ZL1 pump with the FPCM(and fuel pump voltage turned up in tune) tuned with a N/A Heads(milled), Cam, Intake, Etc and am in the mid 90's duty cycle on 6.2 Flex Fuel injectors. On a non cam car you may be able to get away with just injectors but no way on one with a decent cam setup.

Not sure how much power the car picked up on E85 but it definitely hits the tires harder and E85 is half the price of 93 around here.

Bo White · 12-20-2017, 12:51 AM

What lb injector are those? I know the LSA are 52lb and LS3 are 42lb.

Slammed1000 · 12-20-2017, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

What lb injector are those? I know the LSA are 52lb and LS3 are 42lb.

Mine came out of a 2013 6.2 Flex and the data shows 50lbs at 58psi. So nearly the same as the LSA but with a standard spray pattern.

Either way the ZL1 pump is about out of steam. If I don't bump the fuel pump voltage in the Fuel System Min voltage table my pressure starts to fall. With it bumped it stays steady at 58.

A larger injector may stretch the pump a little farther but not much.

Bo White · 12-20-2017, 11:52 AM

Right a larger injector will help the pump out a touch.

alaskacamaro · 12-21-2017, 05:27 PM

Moved to KY two summers ago. Retuned for 93 pump gas and dyno results were 470whp and 440wtq on a super hot and humid day.

Just did a E85 tune and gained 10whp and 20wtq. The car seems to respond better too.

Bo White · 12-21-2017, 05:44 PM

You make a 93 pull while you was doing the E85?

alaskacamaro · 12-21-2017, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

You make a 93 pull while you was doing the E85?

Yep. Installed a dsx sensor and did a 93 pull before e85. Still at 470whp and 440wtq according to the tuner. Can switch between both but he recommended less than a 1/4 tank if I ever switch fuel. I was told around here most e85 stays around e80-70 even in the winter

Bo White · 12-21-2017, 10:13 PM

Awesome

Ashen L99 · 12-23-2017, 02:36 AM

How is it that my 6th gen buddies were just able to get the flex sensor and run full e85? I have 2 that have done it. One car is a blue 16', A8, with a stall, small blower cam, full exhaust, some head work, and e85. He is still NA. The other is a white 17', M6, with ported throttle body, full exhaust, and e85. They both claim it is 40 hp easy. Now this is all them talking a big game but I have yet to see dynographs. point is, they are both pushing me to get lsa injectors, zl1 fuel pump and the sensor so I can run corn. How is it that we aren't seeing the "gains" they are? You can't tell me the new LT1 is just that good...

Gunmetal Speedster · 12-23-2017, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashen L99

How is it that my 6th gen buddies were just able to get the flex sensor and run full e85? I have 2 that have done it. One car is a blue 16', A8, with a stall, small blower cam, full exhaust and e85. He is still NA. The other is a white 17', M6, with ported throttle body, full exhaust, and e85. They both claim it is 40 hp easy. Now this is all them talking a big game but I have yet to see dynographs. point is, they are both pushing me to get lsa injectors, zl1 fuel pump and the sensor so I can run corn. How is it that we aren't seeing the "gains" they are? You can't tell me the new LT1 is just that good...

I'd take it with a grain of salt until you see a dyno sheet haha

12-18-2017, 05:19 PM	#15
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	I have a buddy running a ZL1 pump without a BAP on a simular build. His is DC is higher than mine. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

12-20-2017, 12:51 AM	#20
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	What lb injector are those? I know the LSA are 52lb and LS3 are 42lb. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

12-20-2017, 11:52 AM	#22
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Right a larger injector will help the pump out a touch. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

12-21-2017, 05:27 PM	#23
alaskacamaro Drives: 2012 2SS 45TH Anniversary Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 720	Moved to KY two summers ago. Retuned for 93 pump gas and dyno results were 470whp and 440wtq on a super hot and humid day. Just did a E85 tune and gained 10whp and 20wtq. The car seems to respond better too. __________________ PFADT stage 3 suspension kit, SW LTH, SW cat less retro exhaust, MGW short throw, 3.91 gears, MRR Z28 wheels, Roto Fab CAI, SLP underpully, 255cc ported heads, TSP 229/236 Cam, ZL1 pump, Street Slayer Twin Carbon clutch, ID850 injectors, Snow Stage III Meth kit 480whp/460wtq tuned by Dynosty

12-21-2017, 05:44 PM	#24
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	You make a 93 pull while you was doing the E85? __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

12-19-2017, 07:28 PM	#17
SrtWtF Drives: Nsrt & Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Miami Posts: 294	I'm running E85 with just injectors, Zl1 pump, and adm fpcm. I saw nice gain, drivability same as stock. But then again I've ran Corn in all my modded cars ^_^

12-19-2017, 08:21 PM	#19
Slammed1000 Drives: 2011 2SS RS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 86	I run a ZL1 pump with the FPCM(and fuel pump voltage turned up in tune) tuned with a N/A Heads(milled), Cam, Intake, Etc and am in the mid 90's duty cycle on 6.2 Flex Fuel injectors. On a non cam car you may be able to get away with just injectors but no way on one with a decent cam setup. Not sure how much power the car picked up on E85 but it definitely hits the tires harder and E85 is half the price of 93 around here.

12-21-2017, 10:13 PM	#26
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Awesome __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

12-23-2017, 02:36 AM	#27
Ashen L99 Drives: Ashen grey, 1SS, L99 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 527	How is it that my 6th gen buddies were just able to get the flex sensor and run full e85? I have 2 that have done it. One car is a blue 16', A8, with a stall, small blower cam, full exhaust, some head work, and e85. He is still NA. The other is a white 17', M6, with ported throttle body, full exhaust, and e85. They both claim it is 40 hp easy. Now this is all them talking a big game but I have yet to see dynographs. point is, they are both pushing me to get lsa injectors, zl1 fuel pump and the sensor so I can run corn. How is it that we aren't seeing the "gains" they are? You can't tell me the new LT1 is just that good... __________________ Roto-fab CAI, Nick Williams 102mm TB, LOD X1 V3 intake manifold, GMPP LS3 heads, Night Fury cam, TSP 2” long tubes, Corsa ZL-1 catback, Nitrous Outlet 102mm plate kit/150 shot, NGK BR7EF plugs with Taylor plug wires, DSX flex fuel kit, ZL-1 fuel pump and injectors, B&M deep trans pan, Yank 3400 converter, 3.45s with BMR Delrin bushings, mishimoto 169° Thermostat, GM ground effects, T-Rex upper grill, Z/28 Spoiler, Lolly pop Lime brake calipers, ZL1 10 spoke wheels, 12” subwoofer, and custom paint matched interior. Last edited by Ashen L99; 12-23-2017 at 11:37 PM.