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DRKS1D3 · 10-25-2013, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessrayo

If anyone can build a Vega that can easily outrun 911's and Corvettes around the road course, hit 10 second quarter miles, have a top end over 200 in the Texas mile and still be a comfortable commuter car that I drive to whatever racing venue I happen to be heading to ( I don't own a trailer) for less money that the ZL1. I might be interested. I haven't seen that Vega yet. The ZL1 really is an amazing car with a lot of potential. I do like that it happens to be pretty but that played no part in my personal decision to buy it. Maybe I'm the rare exception but there are people like me out there.

Don't get me wrong, if I purchased it new and found the paint was messed up I would expect the dealer to fix it. I bought mine used and even if it has a scuff or scratch that won't stop it from going 200 mph.

Thank you. That is what I wanted to hear. The OP wants the over spray fixed and I think that is logical, not irrational.

Samson2029 · 10-25-2013, 01:31 PM

The paint job on my ZL1 is not up to standards, very visible when the car is black. Compaired to my brothers 2012 mustang, the mustangs finish is excellent. After many, many, many,.... coats of wax the ZED now looks great. Best not to touch up the paint unless its to obvious. I am sure the 55-60K goes to its engine, suspension, brakes, and drivetrain, not on esthetics. My 2000 Camaro however had an water smooth perfect paint finish. Anyways they have to cut somewhere to make these beasts affordable.

URBAN LEGEND · 10-25-2013, 01:57 PM

Pictures please. I can't take this anymore.

Michael2000 · 10-25-2013, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samson2029

The paint job on my ZL1 is not up to standards, very visible when the car is black. Compaired to my brothers 2012 mustang, the mustangs finish is excellent. After many, many, many,.... coats of wax the ZED now looks great. Best not to touch up the paint unless its to obvious. I am sure the 55-60K goes to its engine, suspension, brakes, and drivetrain, not on esthetics. My 2000 Camaro however had an water smooth perfect paint finish. Anyways they have to cut somewhere to make these beasts affordable.

Sorry to hear about your paint not being up to standards. GMs paint seems to be getting worse again. Check out the Corvette C7 forums, and you'll see what I mean. I don't know what is happening to this company. I have a couple of older GM cars, and the paint is excellent.

BTW, it is not automatically cheaper to do a bad job of painting than a good one. GM screwed up their paint processes, and the processes cost just as much as if they did it right. In fact, it may actually cost them more in the long run with plant and warranty paint repairs. Add to this the number of sales lost, and then what is it costing them? Some auto manufacturers sell cars for $15K that have good paint jobs.

Michael

mmarx82 · 10-25-2013, 04:06 PM

Wow guys, seems no respect was given to anyone on this thread. Everyone being rude to one another... We're all better than this. Just because we sit behind a computer screen doesn't give anyone the right to act the way you guys are acting toward each other.

MichiganSRT · 10-25-2013, 04:14 PM

Kinda funny to see how people react to their paint like this with a camaro. You guys would sh!t yourself if you saw how some of the vehicles come in straight off the boat from Ferrari when I get my hands on them. I've had to wet sand entire panels of cars that cost 7x the amount of a loaded ZL1, so no matter your vehicle make there will always be faults with paint. A good detailer will be able to see if the peel can be knocked down, if not save some cash up and go get a custom paint job, and get ready to easily spend 12k for a nice show finish paint job and not have your car for a longgg time.

URBAN LEGEND · 10-25-2013, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael2000

Sorry to hear about your paint not being up to standards. GMs paint seems to be getting worse again. Check out the Corvette C7 forums, and you'll see what I mean. I don't know what is happening to this company. I have a couple of older GM cars, and the paint is excellent.

BTW, it is not automatically cheaper to do a bad job of painting than a good one. GM screwed up their paint processes, and the processes cost just as much as if they did it right. In fact, it may actually cost them more in the long run with plant and warranty paint repairs. Add to this the number of sales lost, and then what is it costing them? Some auto manufacturers sell cars for $15K that have good paint jobs.

Michael

C7 has paint issues now?

SlingShot · 10-25-2013, 05:06 PM

I'm thinking a good polishing will take care of any over spray issues...

LuckyZL-1 · 10-25-2013, 06:43 PM

I dunno about some of you but I saw my car come off the trailer then I test drove after spacers were removed. They then detailed it and I returned the next day to pick it up. At that point I went over the entire car inside and out while the sales manager stood there waiting on me to sign the check. I told him when I was happy so would he! I wouldn't have taken delivery of it period if it had blemishes or overspray. I did find a small chip in trunk area but decided I could live with it cuz it was so small and hidden from view. Thing I tell my boys is don't get too excited and want to take it without a good inspection and test drive. Things happen and no one is perfect when building anything but you don't have to settle for less unless ur used to settling!

spratleyea · 10-25-2013, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael2000

There are a lot of people on here who don't understand why GM's U.S. market share is at an 88 year low. Neither does the UAW.

Michael

Yeah, I wondered that myself. It's the details they need to focus on. Good point. Fortunatly my white 2SS paint was spot on.

OldScoolCamaro · 10-25-2013, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael2000

There are a lot of people on here who don't understand why GM's U.S. market share is at an 88 year low. Neither does the UAW.

Michael

....wut......?????? Elaborate......

Trackman · 10-25-2013, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jessrayo

If anyone can build a Vega that can easily outrun 911's and Corvettes around the road course, hit 10 second quarter miles, have a top end over 200 in the Texas mile and still be a comfortable commuter car that I drive to whatever racing venue I happen to be heading to ( I don't own a trailer) for less money that the ZL1. I might be interested. I haven't seen that Vega yet. The ZL1 really is an amazing car with a lot of potential. I do like that it happens to be pretty but that played no part in my personal decision to buy it. Maybe I'm the rare exception but there are people like me out there.

Don't get me wrong, if I purchased it new and found the paint was messed up I would expect the dealer to fix it. I bought mine used and even if it has a scuff or scratch that won't stop it from going 200 mph.

What he said.

Camarodriver2 · 10-25-2013, 10:45 PM

Half the people who are bitten by snakes, die trying to find the one that bit them so they can kill it.

You can fight the battle with the dealer and they may agree to send it out to the Earl Scheibs again to fix it. Or you can put your efforts into finding a good paint guy that will know how to fix the overspray and orange peel which all factory paint jobs have. Paint also shrinks and that has an effect on the appearance. Find out how many coats of clear are on factory Camaros and have your paint guy wet sand with 1600 grit, then buff out. That will fix the shrunk paint, orange peel, and overspray. That info was provided by my 30 year paint guy :-)

OldScoolCamaro · 10-25-2013, 10:46 PM

....Damn, I owned a Vega,...what he said....loved that car....Grumpy ran one....!

10-25-2013, 04:06 PM	#33
mmarx82 Drives: '12 ZL1 #1609 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,762	Wow guys, seems no respect was given to anyone on this thread. Everyone being rude to one another... We're all better than this. Just because we sit behind a computer screen doesn't give anyone the right to act the way you guys are acting toward each other. __________________ Life is too short to drive cars that suck. My build Thread

10-25-2013, 05:06 PM	#36
SlingShot Drives: 2012 ZL1 - #670 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seminole, Fl. Posts: 8,009	I'm thinking a good polishing will take care of any over spray issues... __________________

10-25-2013, 06:43 PM	#37
LuckyZL-1 Ragtop Rocket!!! Drives: Black on Black Convertible Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: San Antonio Texas Posts: 809	I dunno about some of you but I saw my car come off the trailer then I test drove after spacers were removed. They then detailed it and I returned the next day to pick it up. At that point I went over the entire car inside and out while the sales manager stood there waiting on me to sign the check. I told him when I was happy so would he! I wouldn't have taken delivery of it period if it had blemishes or overspray. I did find a small chip in trunk area but decided I could live with it cuz it was so small and hidden from view. Thing I tell my boys is don't get too excited and want to take it without a good inspection and test drive. Things happen and no one is perfect when building anything but you don't have to settle for less unless ur used to settling! __________________ ADM built 2013 Triple Black ZL-1 Convertible M6 ADM custom cam, LPE stage 2 heads with dual valve springs, LS-3 ported throttle body, LPE 2 piece pulley, LPE overdrive balancer, 10% overdrive pulley, ported supercharger inlet, ADM race intake system, stainless works 1-7/8 headers, Injector Dynamics injectors, ADM heat exchanger, ADM dual fuel pump system, ADM exhaust switch, ADM 3 tunes tuning package. 744rwhp 727rwtq

10-25-2013, 10:46 PM	#42
OldScoolCamaro Drives: Camaro's, always have, always will. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Home of the brave Posts: 4,851	....Damn, I owned a Vega,...what he said....loved that car....Grumpy ran one....! __________________ In Scott We Trust...all others must show proof.

10-25-2013, 01:31 PM	#30
Samson2029 Drives: 328xi, ML400, ZL1 man. 2013 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Quebec Posts: 153	The paint job on my ZL1 is not up to standards, very visible when the car is black. Compaired to my brothers 2012 mustang, the mustangs finish is excellent. After many, many, many,.... coats of wax the ZED now looks great. Best not to touch up the paint unless its to obvious. I am sure the 55-60K goes to its engine, suspension, brakes, and drivetrain, not on esthetics. My 2000 Camaro however had an water smooth perfect paint finish. Anyways they have to cut somewhere to make these beasts affordable.

10-25-2013, 01:57 PM	#31
URBAN LEGEND Drives: 20 X3M CP & 19 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Brenham, TX Posts: 3,517	Pictures please. I can't take this anymore.

10-25-2013, 04:14 PM	#34
MichiganSRT SRT and SS Drives: 08' Jeep SRT8 / 13' 2SS Conv. Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 209 View My Garage	Kinda funny to see how people react to their paint like this with a camaro. You guys would sh!t yourself if you saw how some of the vehicles come in straight off the boat from Ferrari when I get my hands on them. I've had to wet sand entire panels of cars that cost 7x the amount of a loaded ZL1, so no matter your vehicle make there will always be faults with paint. A good detailer will be able to see if the peel can be knocked down, if not save some cash up and go get a custom paint job, and get ready to easily spend 12k for a nice show finish paint job and not have your car for a longgg time.

10-25-2013, 10:45 PM	#41
Camarodriver2 Drives: FOR SALE! Bumblebee 1 of 1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Geneva IL Posts: 530 View My Garage	Half the people who are bitten by snakes, die trying to find the one that bit them so they can kill it. You can fight the battle with the dealer and they may agree to send it out to the Earl Scheibs again to fix it. Or you can put your efforts into finding a good paint guy that will know how to fix the overspray and orange peel which all factory paint jobs have. Paint also shrinks and that has an effect on the appearance. Find out how many coats of clear are on factory Camaros and have your paint guy wet sand with 1600 grit, then buff out. That will fix the shrunk paint, orange peel, and overspray. That info was provided by my 30 year paint guy :-)