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Old 11-25-2015, 06:13 AM   #57
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Who thinks of trade in value? Most new cars depreciate like a falling rock the first couple of years especially our cars. Over 20% the first year which is $10K+ on a $50K ZL1. $10K can buy a lot of engine mods.

The nice thing about sinking a lot of money into something cheap is that you can embarass some fairly arrogant owners with expensive cars with your sleeper beater. It just depends on what you want to do. Do you want to be a feared street monster or have a nice blend of power, handling, looks and value for your money.

For that, my little ole V6 gives me that in spades so I'm happy.
Well said. I wanted my ZL1 to have a bit more oomph and decided to add some bolt-on's (under $4k spent parts/labor)...I did this for me and not trade in value as I want to enjoy what I have as my daily driver.
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Old 11-25-2015, 06:35 AM   #58
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Having driven a 6thgen 2SS I can say it makes our 5thgens feel old and bulky. Looks are subjective, I personally like the new interior but not exactly sold on the exterior. You can definitely feel the difference in the chassis and the 8 speed auto is amazing.

Gen5 SS vs. Gen6 SS there is absolutely no comparison on performance, quality and just overall feel, looks being subject obviously.

I love my '14, it's done the way I want for now(may do a LSA add on if I keep it), I still think in a year I may go Gen5 ZL1 over a Gen6 SS unless my GM employee pricing really wows me.
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Old 11-25-2015, 08:58 AM   #59
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You can be sure the future ZL1 will be in the mid 70's and the Z/28 high 80's. With the world as unstable as it is now, and being a financial adviser I say buy gold! most of you are to young to remember the late 80's when people were paying 18% on home loans, and 20% car loans. But I digress I own a lot of GM stock so BUY, BUY, BUY.
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Old 11-25-2015, 05:57 PM   #60
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Old 11-25-2015, 09:17 PM   #61
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Old 11-26-2015, 08:27 AM   #62
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You can be sure the future ZL1 will be in the mid 70's and the Z/28 high 80's. With the world as unstable as it is now, and being a financial adviser I say buy gold! most of you are to young to remember the late 80's when people were paying 18% on home loans, and 20% car loans. But I digress I own a lot of GM stock so BUY, BUY, BUY.
If they do make a Z28 and its in the high 80s they will be sitting on the lots with the 2014 and 2015 they can't sell now in the mid 70s .
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Old 11-26-2015, 02:23 PM   #63
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If they do make a Z28 and its in the high 80s they will be sitting on the lots with the 2014 and 2015 they can't sell now in the mid 70s .
The trick is, they'll get the dealer markup cooked into the mix. The early birds will buy an 85K Z/28 and pay full ride. The car would actually sell for 76K for example. So after people stop coming, they drop 10K off the price, and the hope is people will think they're saving $$.

I just made that up. But it's plausible. There's always risk with product launch, but they've got pretty good at what will sell and what will have issues.

People forget this is the "new" body style, and the market has been saturated with 5th gens for a LONG time. Only natural that they drop in value.

Don't ever, ever, ever, bank on any new car being worth big dollars one day. Buy them to enjoy, however you wish, but cars are normally very bad investments. You may strike lightning, but doubtful. It's a long-run bet that may never pay off.
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:08 AM   #64
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I had made a post about my decision. I had a 2014 SS and was considering the 162SS or an older ZL1. I took about 3 months to think about this, do research, and drive them both. I felt like the ZL1 was a lot more of what I was looking for. Its a the name plate, its the power, its the car that people stop and point at. With that being said the new car is very quick and fun to drive with a kazillion amenities that will probably be selling points to many of you. To me this was kinda like going with a 69 over a 70 something. Either way I can't wait to see what people do to these new cars and what comes out in a year or two. Peace.
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:42 AM   #65
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Having driven a 6thgen 2SS I can say it makes our 5thgens feel old and bulky. Looks are subjective, I personally like the new interior but not exactly sold on the exterior. You can definitely feel the difference in the chassis and the 8 speed auto is amazing.

Gen5 SS vs. Gen6 SS there is absolutely no comparison on performance, quality and just overall feel, looks being subject obviously.

I love my '14, it's done the way I want for now(may do a LSA add on if I keep it), I still think in a year I may go Gen5 ZL1 over a Gen6 SS unless my GM employee pricing really wows me.
This is why I kept mine and did an LSA conversion. The old girl has a lot going for it ;o)

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Old 12-17-2015, 10:56 AM   #66
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Old 12-17-2015, 11:12 AM   #67
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Local dealership has a 2016 1LT/RS for 42K. Rather expensive for a V6. Car does look better in person but interior is smaller, shorter. I won't totally judge a 2016 until the SS arrives. But for now I'll keep my 2SS/RS.
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Old 12-17-2015, 11:23 AM   #68
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Local dealership has a 2016 1LT/RS for 42K. Rather expensive for a V6. Car does look better in person but interior is smaller, shorter. I won't totally judge a 2016 until the SS arrives. But for now I'll keep my 2SS/RS.
LT/RS for 42??? What did they put on it in options? Yikes!
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Old 12-17-2015, 12:07 PM   #69
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the looks need to grow on me. So far the perfromance is decent for the price. not a ton of data out there in the handling arena yet that I have seen.

I still factor in looks when I buy a car and thats why it is not on my radar at all at this point.

I would rather have a GT350 or hellcat over a 2016 SS hands down.

so I see all these people praising the car but I am not shopping for one ha ha. may the 2017 Z?? will peak my interest.
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Old 12-21-2015, 06:12 AM   #70
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This topic is weird to me because I fell IN LOVE with the 5th Gen when it first came out. All I could think about is how I wanted to mod it with a sc etc...then the ZL1 came out and I hit the floor!! Everything I wanted in the Camaro was right there, more muscular front, supercharged, more refined handling. I literally looked at the chevrolet website every day for months. I held off until last year because I wanted to see what changes would be made before I bought it. I have the car I have dreamt about for years, and there is nothing out there that gives me that same feeling. The 6 Gen has many great attributes, but none that give me the feeling my ZL1 does. Maybe if they do a 6 Gen ZL1 it will be a great car, but Im 6'3 240lbs, I doubt if I will love the way I feel sitting in like I do mine. I drive my ZL1 more than my 87 Grand National, more than my truck, and way more than my 750i. Personally, no car out there appeals to me, and gives me the feeling that my ZL1 does. Congrats to GM on building 2 great generations of Camaro.
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