05-03-2017, 02:15 PM | #1 |
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Is this much exhaust soot normal???
My dad said my car is "running rich" by the way my exhaust looks.. can anybody explain or elaborate on this please
Is this a problem? Or totally normal? EDIT: currently have a MRT v2 exhaust installed. Automatic v6 |
05-03-2017, 02:18 PM | #2 |
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Looking at your post history, you've been complaining about low MPG as well as it looks like you do a lot of city driving.
I would say the car is definitely running rich, but how often do you clean the exhaust tips before they look like that again?
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05-03-2017, 02:53 PM | #3 |
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Looking at your exhaust, that is not normal & I'd have to agree with your dad & Chibi.
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05-03-2017, 03:10 PM | #4 |
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Damn, that's RICH! Get a better air filter or CAI that might help, but better yet get a tune.
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05-03-2017, 03:17 PM | #5 |
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seems like it happens lots on direct injection engines
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05-03-2017, 03:50 PM | #6 |
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I have this same level of soot on my DynoSteve tuned L99.
I emailed him shortly after the tune explaining that I was concerned it was running rich. He told me it was impossible, as that the way he runs his tune, these cars are all dialed in. I asked if we could Datalog it, but he declined.... This is what I never understood from custom canned tunes. Each car is different and every single mod can alter the base tune, although I do know the car has a learn factor. I have an SCT X4 and Livelink software installed, can easily datalog, but I really don't know what I am looking for with my Short/Long Term Fuel Trims to see if it really is off from optimal or not.
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Make sure the car is staying within +/- 5. So if you see anything richer than -5 in the LTFT, then it's running too rich. Positive numbers are leaning out. This is how I log with HPTuners to see if I'm running too rich or not.
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05-03-2017, 04:06 PM | #9 |
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Def looks rich. Can bad cats not burning excess fuel do this? I don't think he said (2010 Camaro) but a V8 will crud the tips in pretty short order on city runs.
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05-03-2017, 04:25 PM | #10 |
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My tips look like that, but I know my car does run rich. But the LLT is hard to tune, there only a few companies that do it.
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05-03-2017, 05:13 PM | #11 |
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My L99 would be covered in soot about 50 miles after cleaning, started after a mail order tune. After some mods I had it dyno tune with a wide band sniffer in the tail pipe to dial in A/F ratio, and no more soot. If you haven't checked your air filter, you should to make sure shes breathing OK. But it could be the tune...
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05-03-2017, 06:44 PM | #13 |
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Y'all gotta quit burning that pine and alder. Some good oak is best. I find the walnut a little cold, hard to burn and dirty too. Really crusts up the tips. I heard some people over on a car forum had this problem as well. Anyway, always glad to contribute to the Fireplace5 blog.
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05-03-2017, 06:51 PM | #14 |
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Mine is that dirty, was that filthy with the stock tune and manifold
Can't tell if got any dirtier after going catless headers and a tune. I wouldn't be too concerned, I ring my out often too so I'm blowing all that bad stuff out
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