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Old 01-09-2024, 03:22 PM   #15
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Count me as another one who bought one due to it going out of production. In my case however it was because V8 manual RWD coupes are going out of production with only the Mustang left and I preferred the gen6 camaro to the gen7 mustang. If this wasn’t the case I probably would have held out and bought a used zl1 or would have went completely different and bought a Supra as I already had a Gen 6 SS before my current Gen 6 SS 1le. I would have loved to try something different and then come back to the platform but I believe it will be harder and harder to find clean Gen 6 examples in the future with 2024 being the final year.
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Old 01-09-2024, 05:07 PM   #16
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Glad I got mine. What an incredible machine and the bargain of performance per $ cant be beat.
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Old 01-09-2024, 06:34 PM   #17
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I probably wouldn’t have bought a 24 if it wasn’t the last year.
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Old 01-09-2024, 08:04 PM   #18
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Count me as another one who bought one due to it going out of production. In my case however it was because V8 manual RWD coupes are going out of production with only the Mustang left and I preferred the gen6 camaro to the gen7 mustang. If this wasn’t the case I probably would have held out and bought a used zl1 or would have went completely different and bought a Supra as I already had a Gen 6 SS before my current Gen 6 SS 1le. I would have loved to try something different and then come back to the platform but I believe it will be harder and harder to find clean Gen 6 examples in the future with 2024 being the final year.
For me it is convertible with manual. A dying breed. Miata is too small for my taste and I have owned three Mustangs over the years. So here I am..
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Old 01-09-2024, 09:25 PM   #19
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Wow, guess a lot of people buying it because of a similar reason..

*ahem* I bought mine because I found out the Camaro was going out of production. The pending doom of V8 cars was part of that as well. I'd always wanted a nice new car, and it seemed like my time was up. I'm a Chevy (formerly Pontiac) guy, so the obvious choice to me was the Camaro (not to mention I think they're just straight up a nicer car).
When I found out I could afford the trim I really wanted, well, twist my rubber arm.

I had a 4th Gen Firebird before this and I gotta say, felt so fitting to upgrade my LT1 to a brand new LT1
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Old 01-09-2024, 09:50 PM   #20
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Same here. I planned on keeping the 14 for a long time.
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Old 01-10-2024, 05:56 AM   #21
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I bought my '23 for fear of missing out, totally honest. I knew the car wasn't going to be produced anymore and I waited until the very end to buy myself a new one. Tally one for a sale that probably wouldn't have happened if production was business as usual.

There is quite a bit due to this…….

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Of course it had better sales since 2019. We have had parts shortages, chip shortages and a pandemic which hampered production from 2020 until 2023.


2023 is the first model year for basically every manufacturer where sales went higher since 2020 and its because of the above.


2019 sales were still higher then 2023 sales and having higher sales then 2020, 2021 or 2022 isn't really a victory due to the aforementioned problems all manufacturers were dealing with in those years.

The Camaro is a great car, we all know it. But I don't think the reason it sold better in 2023 compared to 2020-2022 is because it was announced it would be killed off again.
And an awful lot due to this. GM shortened un profitable cars ove profitable and Camaro suffered.

Have to keep in mind Camaro STILL came in 3rd. What’s really surprising is new Mustang didn’t get a bump, which sadly shows GM it was probably smart to not invest in the segment.
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Old 01-10-2024, 08:36 AM   #22
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it was really surprising to me to see the mustang sales are way down the last two years. if you combined the camaro and mustang sales with the big fat challenger you'd have barely enough sales for 2 cars.
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Old 01-10-2024, 09:03 AM   #23
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it was really surprising to me to see the mustang sales are way down the last two years. if you combined the camaro and mustang sales with the big fat challenger you'd have barely enough sales for 2 cars.
I think a lot of it is due to interest rates and the msrp increases. I think the msrp of my 2ss 1le was too high for what it is even though it’s still technically a bargain compared to the competition.

I think base models of the 3 cars you listed start at over 30k before options which I find absolutely ludicrous.
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Old 01-10-2024, 10:52 AM   #24
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Count me as another one who bought one due to it going out of production. In my case however it was because V8 manual RWD coupes are going out of production with only the Mustang left and I preferred the gen6 camaro to the gen7 mustang. If this wasn’t the case I probably would have held out and bought a used zl1 or would have went completely different and bought a Supra as I already had a Gen 6 SS before my current Gen 6 SS 1le. I would have loved to try something different and then come back to the platform but I believe it will be harder and harder to find clean Gen 6 examples in the future with 2024 being the final year.
Same. I'd had a 16ss back in 16 then a 171le sold in early 18. Didn't want another of the same car but order 24 being no more manual v8 cars around. Hoped for a z28 or something different but never happened. And not crazy to see sales up after production and parts shortages. My 24 1LE is a lot of car for the money, even more compared to high truck prices but still feels like too much expense at times for a nice weather toy. Part of why the cars struggle to sell. Really great track car but not for every day living. The better the car gets the less particle it became as well.
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Old 01-10-2024, 11:36 AM   #25
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I think a lot of it is due to interest rates and the msrp increases. I think the msrp of my 2ss 1le was too high for what it is even though it’s still technically a bargain compared to the competition.

I think base models of the 3 cars you listed start at over 30k before options which I find absolutely ludicrous.
Probably does have a big part in it. When I got my SS Fifty it was like $33K back in 2019, granted I know the market was a lot different then, but now with them being at $50K+ with terrible interest rates, they're a lot less appealing. The only reason I even got a 23 truck was the promo interest rate made my payment cheaper than the 2020 I had, and even then it's still more than I like paying. Hindsight is always 20/20, but if I could go back in time I'd have just kept my SS and gotten an old cateye or something and paid cash for it as a daily. Even with 300k miles it'd probably last longer than these newer model trucks with all the AFM/auto shut off crap.
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Old 01-10-2024, 01:54 PM   #26
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price doesn't seem to hurt truck and suv sales, which are way overpriced
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Old 01-10-2024, 02:02 PM   #27
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There is quite a bit due to this…….

And an awful lot due to this. GM shortened un profitable cars ove profitable and Camaro suffered.

Have to keep in mind Camaro STILL came in 3rd. What’s really surprising is new Mustang didn’t get a bump, which sadly shows GM it was probably smart to not invest in the segment.
What bump was the S650 Mustang supposed to get in its 2nd model year?

Also, how could the Camaro that hasn't received any significant investment in 5 years be unprofitable in its 9th model year, initial investment and design overhead long recovered, especially after hefty price increases across the board? I bet GM makes a super nice profit even on a $32K entry level Camaro, a very hefty one on $50-60K V8 units, and a mind-boggling killing on a $80-90K ZL1.

The only argument that could be made is that production capacity was needed for even more profitable vehicles with higher sales volumes, which are the trucks and SUVs, neither of them manufactured in Lansing...
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Old 01-10-2024, 02:14 PM   #28
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price doesn't seem to hurt truck and suv sales, which are way overpriced
Every time I see a new AT4 on the road, I just feel bad for the dude.

I have a loaded sierra SLT but I got it back in 2019 as a 2018 left over for 14k off MSRP back when that's how car deals used to play out. Now? Forget it. People need to chill out the dealers and manufacturers have us jumping over one another for crazy prices.

I'm done buying cars for a while, I think my next truck will be a 2500 witout any features if prices don't come back down.
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